Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-ofbiz-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-ofbiz-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10ED217974 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 10:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 70444 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2014 10:09:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ofbiz-user-archive@ofbiz.apache.org Received: (qmail 70411 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2014 10:09:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@ofbiz.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@ofbiz.apache.org Received: (qmail 70395 invoked by uid 99); 2 Oct 2014 10:09:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 10:09:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS,URI_HEX X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [96.127.176.254] (HELO delivery.mailspamprotection.com) (96.127.176.254) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 10:09:41 +0000 Received: from ns1.siteground172.com ([184.154.160.14] helo=serv01.siteground172.com) by se3.mailspamprotection.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1XZdJx-0001PY-8K for user@ofbiz.apache.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 05:09:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandglass-software.com; s=dkim; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=8PHB3jKN0XeKsw43/Y+BAVH6V3bYnWtm8Uspbtx5Wd0=; b=jYTssAqxLSMhiJ0rBZyiidpTqlW483GWVDEec/Psh4m8EWDRFLuBqVZHp5FKgYDK9BgXwWH5IEdVY+wjmKR6fZyLUgAYBedNGA8pCB5OTX1MaglLmzYJBQmuFBdHK+17GRu9z3Th4++HVKBVp/CF8Ls1dkcsR/YY4bsb2941vaw=; Received: from [213.205.240.16] (port=53223 helo=[10.11.143.13]) by serv01.siteground172.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XZdJs-0007rv-Mp for user@ofbiz.apache.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 05:09:09 -0500 Message-ID: <542D2445.5040302@sandglass-software.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:09:09 +0100 From: Adrian Crum Organization: Sandglass Software User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] PROJECTMGR in upcoming release References: <1412182055015-4656351.post@n4.nabble.com> <542C3A21.3010306@sandglass-software.com> <1412240053568-4656383.post@n4.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1412240053568-4656383.post@n4.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - serv01.siteground172.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ofbiz.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sandglass-software.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: serv01.siteground172.com: none X-Filter-ID: s0sct1PQhAABKnZB5plbIexRb6Wn7ZUV5yeFAstNJZpAY1BaLfwb0I4SZzVEHfhbMrfAO5/ofUxN 7S1UUc8AMXb+QSL7PYJcWsZaAL+M2XYKJw9os7pOAJy3PJptvNli2pi0KksNJ91llWXJBRQg/sJz 8WfReHqUOdh1n/PPcFxMRksY1owXp+iVyepl8CUQn1rVAiSCt0Ta2NBUk6Gho1z1pRXWhjh9fdbl 44I0Df2zi1AhrTmQha+OkAJTNOdMYSX5fABPXG+9QPyWE3Q5FhZRudLhU3wdXTvzjfr4MPrRA+kJ Q5wMpUj3D781oGvPPBfyCUQPGRfAuQJyQcUhQ4/Ia6YN5m0MsQWfYUYaa1IvMq0KDVXLb6VBQkBP sSqcRWJZ4cxmTr0TVcIFDdHywnY+akJNhL5qAttvzUBLxkQRf7vfz3yJTxlDBSwdAW3sfzhI8nvT TuZeG0BzzaacLjHYLyvT6f3Q+BmtUtn7AttH1WsaGAOyYG3fZmqGXyhMKJyXruX+Y6ivUqs4BJMP 66anMfHPEwyrd1R+9gs+vCBFYlnhzGZOvRNVwgUN0fLCdfis1O0p6F7CmaTsN5I7sjZPfzflfo/y ejfhWvkdqy8XKu1VbgppFJRGoXLED7mHy9XUM2wxpPwCncXmP1ltNCMFpceRjk2MKV2DzTNU3Bwb 3njt4tjmb7ifr+05R1MIcsxIsVE4xAikMfMLqAUrqukSxJsJlsb+Z1Fz5U4XSCw= X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine.mailspamprotection.com X-Filter-Fingerprint: IFrWXGses7OKB5S5G8/dJdF8bCbRCAhGucQF+2hmonpA3cTUQ1R++keuE7RDJ8Kg3RbMLUalw1oC mj99/u+Poh38tEMU4IgC4sNz49qn3HHnhRv/ZJ3kEy8bfiAr+Fb/UpndEJ0YoaLytXXo8BMTaX2p Mk7LBarWD9Fj4R3eIu5amSKkALoA6KDzkQ8jq89Qglr+eUaqsXi6ilYykBRNmy1w3rhXI7ypWHcC zReLskSoC1jzfYuYzO5TaopJL1l0EkXKTCB9mgAH2nNvM1GFDcH5C2MO7hTENZJE35bUvwA= X-Originating-IP: 184.154.160.14 X-SpamExperts-Domain: siteground172.com X-SpamExperts-Username: 184.154.160.14 Authentication-Results: mailspamprotection.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=184.154.160.14 X-SpamExperts-Outgoing-Class: ham X-SpamExperts-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.08) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org You are not understanding the diagram. You can see the WORK EFFORT subtypes connected to WORK EFFORT TYPE. That is how the subtypes are implemented - not as separate entities (or tables) but as a field in WORK EFFORT (WORK EFFORT TYPE ID). Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 10/2/2014 9:54 AM, Ronan Keane wrote: > @Jacopo - I understand that no work effort entities have been moved out of > the release, my point was it seemed to me that originally in Ofbiz's > particular implementation/interpretation of the universal model, they may > have been moved out. > > @Adrian - in Len Silverstone's model, within the supra-entity for managing > the work effort (track requirements to perform work, commitments to do work, > and the actual work that is being performed), there are sub entities for > "program", "project", "phase", "task", and "activity". i.e. The work effort > may be subtyped according to its level of detail. c.f. diag.6.3a in his > book. > > I do not see these entities in the entity definitions for work effort > module. > > However, there are entities describing project, phase and task in the > project management module. Also entities for tracking efficiency of efforts > e.g. actual hours, actual rated hours etc. included in Silverstone's > conception of work effort. > > To make the Work Effort Costing entities in the work effort module handle > certain job costing or project costing financial reporting requirements, it > seems to me that the project manager module is needed for break down of work > effort into the kind of detail required by particular sectors, and indeed > the tracking of efficiency of efforts etc. > > Or there may be entities within Ofbiz's work effort costing section that may > be tweaked or adapted to handle such requirements that I do not adequately > understand yet - which I acknowledge as a relative newcomer. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Re-VOTE-PROJECTMGR-in-upcoming-release-tp4656231p4656383.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >