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Subject: Re: OFBIZ project health (was: Re: Latest OFBiz board report to the
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From: Ashish Vijaywargiya <vijaywargiya.ashish@gmail.com>
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Thanks Jacopo for your message. It is very helpful.

*One more interesting fact that I wanted add on here:* If we talk about
year 2005 or 2006 then around 10-20 companies were there in India who were
using OFBiz to provide custom solutions to their customers but now the
current count is in between 50-100. This count covers small as well as
large size organization. OFBiz is growing very fast in India itself and I
am sure growing pretty well in the whole world. Thanks!

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Kind Regards,
Ashish Vijaywargiya


On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > In September 2007 the PMC Chair of our project reported to the board of
> the
> > ASF the following numbers regarding subscription to the projects mailing
> > lists:
> >
> >   - user@ofbiz: 515
> >   - dev@ofbiz: 380
> >   - commits@offbiz: 100
> >
> > In March of 2010 the PMC Chair reported the following numbers:
> >
> >   - user@ofbiz: 718
> >   - dev@ofbiz: 466
> >   - commits:@ofbiz: 218
> >
> > These numbers show significant increases from 2007 to 2010 across all
> > mailing lists, and indicate that we may have a healthy project.
> > But how are the numbers these days? Are they still rising, or are they on
> > the decline?
>
> Pierre, why are you asking these questions to the user list?
> Please clarify to the community your motivations and the reasons for your
> continued attempts to discredit such an healthy project.
>
> Your attempts to imply that the project is not healthy (and I apologize if
> I am mis-interpreting your intentions) are completely baseless and
> misleading for newcomers.
>
> However, I thank you for giving me the opportunity to share with the
> community a few useful information on this topic.
>
> The project is still very healthy from all point of views and even if it
> has a large and mature codebase there is still a lot of activity going on
> (and even if it will ever decrease it would not be a bad signal per se).
> Also, I disagree that the number of subscribers are a good indication of
> project growth, nor the number of commits or similar.
> In the past, without the help of the mailing list it was mostly impossible
> to deploy successfully OFBiz. Now it is possible and easy because the
> product has matured and we have a good release strategy. There are also
> several alternative (to the mailing lists) channels to share information
> about OFBiz (external mail archives, LinkedIn and other social media,
> stackoverflow): this was not true in the past.
> One thing didn't change since then: even in 2007 (and before and after) we
> had people complaining about the health of the project and forecasting
> obscure future for the project.
>
> I am saying that the project is healthy for a number of reasons:
> * because there are every day new companies/groups/individuals interested
> in OFBiz, that select OFBiz after comparing it with other open source and
> legacy products (we have a direct experience of this at HotWax Media, the
> company I work for, but I am sure that you and others can confirm the same
> trend)
> * because the project is still keeping the framework updated (new Tomcat,
> Freemarker, Log4j, DBCP2, etc...)
> * because we are improving the framework and applications
> * because we have now a steady rate of releases (this was not true in 2007
> and in 2010): I know of several users that didn't subscribe to the mailing
> lists but just downloaded OFBiz and, following the documentation, were able
> to deploy a project.
>
> For completeness, here are the stats about mailing list subscriptions at
> today:
>
> user: 892
> dev: 545
> commits: 255
>
> Now let's all go back to work and to make OFBiz an even better product.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jacopo

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