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[2.37.55.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xm4sm1298203wib.9.2014.09.05.02.56.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Sep 2014 02:56:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jacopo Cappellato X-Google-Original-From: Jacopo Cappellato Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Protecting the OFBiz trademark In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 11:56:43 +0200 Cc: Ron Wheeler Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9F0D4560-E32B-4F70-8019-3CAA92F822B5@hotwaxmedia.com> References: <5408BA8C.8090203@artifact-software.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Here is an alternative version (that includes Pierre's feedback) for the = very first statement: "Apache OFBiz=99 is an open source software product for the automation = of enterprise processes that includes framework components and business = applications for ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning), CRM [...]" For the remaining text, I would keep Adrian's version (based on Ron's = initial text). Jacopo On Sep 5, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Pierre Smits = wrote: > Hi Ron, >=20 > Nice going! >=20 > Who is the intended target audience? The message on the page should = reflect > that. >=20 > Here is my version of that first statement: >=20 > Apache OFBiz=99 is an open source enterprise suite of business = applications, > that includes solutions for ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning), CRM > (Customer Relationship Management), E-Business / E-Commerce, SCM = (Supply > Chain Management) and Warehousing, MRP (Manufacturing Resources = Planning), > MMS/EAM (Maintenance Management System/Enterprise Asset Management), = POS > (Point Of Sale), and so on. >=20 > OFBiz=99 provides all the building blocks for reliable, secure and = scalable > enterprise solutions. Use it out-of-the-box, customize it or use it as = a > starting point to even implement your most challenging business needs. = With > OFBiz=99, you can get started right away without the huge deployment = and > maintenance costs of traditional ERP solutions. As your business = grows, > extend the functionality to meet your more sophisticated needs. >=20 > Apache OFBiz=99 is licensed under the Apache License Version 2.0, and = the > project is part of the Apache Software Foundation. >=20 >=20 > After that I would invite the reader with read-on links to get more = info on: >=20 > - the business angle - e.g. descriptions of the available > apps/components/solutions (e.g. for the key decision makers in the - > prospecting - organisation) > - the development/implementation angle - e.g descriptions of how the > OFBiz product is designed, etc. >=20 > Best Regards, >=20 >=20 > Pierre Smits >=20 > *ORRTIZ.COM * > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ron Wheeler = > wrote: >=20 >> The opening description at http://ofbiz.apache.org/ violates Apache's >> trademark policy is some very minor ways. >>=20 >> "Apache OFBiz (The Apache Open For Business Project) is an open = source >> enterprise automation software project licensed under the Apache = License >> Version 2.0. By open source enterprise automation we mean: Open = Source ERP >> (Enterprise Resource Planning), Open Source CRM (Customer = RelationShip >> Management), Open Source E-Business / E-Commerce, Open Source SCM = (Supply >> Chain Management), Open Source MRP (Manufacturing Resources = Planning), Open >> Source CMMS/EAM (Maintenance Management System/Enterprise Asset >> Management), Open Source POS (Point Of Sale), and so on. >> Apache OFBiz is a foundation and starting point for reliable, secure = and >> scalable enterprise solutions. Use it out-of-the-box (OOTB) or = customize to >> suit even your most challenging business needs. With OFBiz in place, = you >> can get started right away and then grow your operations as your = business >> grows, without the huge deployment and maintenance costs of = traditional >> enterprise automation systems. >> Apache OFBiz is a project of The Apache Software Foundation." >>=20 >> could be modified to be >>=20 >> "Apache OFBiz, the Apache Open For Business package, is an open = source >> enterprise automation software product that includes ERP (Enterprise >> Resource Planning), CRM (Customer Relationship Management), = E-Business / >> E-Commerce, SCM (Supply Chain Management), MRP (Manufacturing = Resources >> Planning), MMS/EAM (Maintenance Management System/Enterprise Asset >> Management) and POS (Point Of Sale) functions. >> Apache OFBiz provides a foundation and starting point for reliable, = secure >> and scalable enterprise solutions. Use it out-of-the-box or customize = it to >> suit even your most challenging business needs. With OFBiz, you can = get >> started right away without the huge deployment and maintenance costs = of >> traditional enterprise automation systems. As your business grows, = extend >> the functionality to meet your more sophisticated needs >> The Apache OFBiz project is part of The Apache Software Foundation." >>=20 >> This meets the need to protect the Apache OFBiz trademark by defining = it >> as a "package" rather than a "project". Projects can not be = trademarked >> (according to Apache) so the definition of OfBiz must define it as a = thing >> - "software", "package" or "system" are possible. >>=20 >> I also changed CMMS to MMS since the full name is "Maintenance = Management >> System". Not sure if someone wrote CMMS on purpose and forgot to add = the >> "C-word" to the definition. >>=20 >> I removed the repetition of "Open Source" since it applies to all = features >> and just makes the sentence very hard to read. I would suggest = putting the >> features as bullets to increase readability but that is a question of = taste >> and how that would look on the page. >>=20 >> I removed the "OOTB" since term is not used later on the page and = just >> interrupts the flow for no benefit. >> CRM - Relationship is one word and the "S" should not be capitalized. >>=20 >> I split the second last sentence to make the sentence easier to read. = Is " >> extend the functionality" an appropriate way to express the idea = implied in >> the original sentence. >>=20 >> How does this look? Have I screwe up anything? >> Are there any other ideas that we should include in the opening >> introduction to OFBiz? Typical customers or some guidance about the = target >> market? >>=20 >> The bullets in the second column repeat some of the functionality >> description is this section. >> They seem to be selective without a balance between the major >> functionality listed in column 1. >>=20 >> Ron >>=20 >> -- >> Ron Wheeler >> President >> Artifact Software Inc >> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com >> skype: ronaldmwheeler >> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>=20 >>=20