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From: Pierre Smits To: user@ofbiz.apache.org, Ron Wheeler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c08ccb43b4604fffac144 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --f46d043c08ccb43b4604fffac144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Oops, wrong mail thread. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM * Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Ron, > > I can understand that when talking about organisation specific support > groups, and there are a few. But apart from these and the open groups, it > seems to me that these closed groups were created to explore how far the > OFBiz community extends in order to execute some marketing scheme (by its > creator). > > We can only guess about the intentions. > > Regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM * > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Pierre Smits > wrote: > >> Ron, >> >> In 2009 or thereabouts the PMC decided to adopt the Ubuntu way of >> numbering OFBiz releases. Since then every year in april a release was cut. >> But as the number of active committers is decreasing the time to release a >> cut takes more time. Last year broke with that policy, resulting in a >> release been cut with number 13.07. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM * >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Ron Wheeler < >> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote: >> >>> https://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html page needs updating. >>> >>> Is the 12.04.05 release date closer to being known? >>> >>> >>> The description of the Release number says that release numbers consist >>> of 2 parts >>> >>> "The naming convention for OFBiz releases is*>> Number>."* >>> but the releases seem to have 3 digits. Patch description missing. >>> >>> The 13.x.x series part of the page puzzles me. >>> It seems to indicate that some early versions 13.0.0, 13.07.01 should >>> already be able to be downloaded. >>> It also seems to indicate that the 13.x.x will be released in 2014 which >>> means that it should have a 14.x.x release number. >>> >>> I am not sure why a non-standard pattern of release identification was >>> adopted but it is confusing and now inconsistent. >>> It leads to the impression that the project is not active since it >>> missed 2013 altogether. >>> >>> Would it not be possible/"good thing" to adopt a standard pattern of >>> releases where the first digit indicates major change with some risk of >>> serious work required to upgrade, second digit indicating significant new >>> functionality but no change to the existing data structure or functions >>> that are not changing and the last digits indicating a minor bug fix? >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> -- >>> Ron Wheeler >>> President >>> Artifact Software Inc >>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com >>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>> >>> >> > --f46d043c08ccb43b4604fffac144--