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A release branch can be created at any time by any committer, so the timing has nothing to do with the number of available committers. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 8/6/2014 8:00 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Ron, > > In 2009 or thereabouts the PMC decided to adopt the Ubuntu way of numbering > OFBiz releases. Since then every year in april a release was cut. But as > the number of active committers is decreasing the time to release a cut > takes more time. Last year broke with that policy, resulting in a release > been cut with number 13.07. > > > Regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM * > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Ron Wheeler > wrote: > >> https://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html page needs updating. >> >> Is the 12.04.05 release date closer to being known? >> >> >> The description of the Release number says that release numbers consist of >> 2 parts >> >> "The naming convention for OFBiz releases is*> Number>."* >> but the releases seem to have 3 digits. Patch description missing. >> >> The 13.x.x series part of the page puzzles me. >> It seems to indicate that some early versions 13.0.0, 13.07.01 should >> already be able to be downloaded. >> It also seems to indicate that the 13.x.x will be released in 2014 which >> means that it should have a 14.x.x release number. >> >> I am not sure why a non-standard pattern of release identification was >> adopted but it is confusing and now inconsistent. >> It leads to the impression that the project is not active since it missed >> 2013 altogether. >> >> Would it not be possible/"good thing" to adopt a standard pattern of >> releases where the first digit indicates major change with some risk of >> serious work required to upgrade, second digit indicating significant new >> functionality but no change to the existing data structure or functions >> that are not changing and the last digits indicating a minor bug fix? >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> -- >> Ron Wheeler >> President >> Artifact Software Inc >> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com >> skype: ronaldmwheeler >> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >> >> >