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From Mansour Al Akeel <mansour.alak...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Creating parties
Date Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:21:33 GMT
Ok, I ordered the book, and just recieved it. I will check this part as
soon as I can.
I didn't recieve the CD with the book. Is this important ? 




On Mon Jun 27,2011 09:29 am, BJ Freeman wrote:
> as both Adrian and I mentioned most of that would be described well in
> the Data model book that ofbiz was modeled after, which is why not much
> documentation is written specifically in ofbiz.
> 
> There are emails in the archive that have covered different parts of
> your question.
> 
> Actually it has been a good time for the Documentation for over 6 years,
> problem is getting someone to volunteer to do it. We have added internal
> Help in ofbiz that needs to be filled out. ANY VOLUNTEERS.
> 
> Normally such Contributions have been from someone hiring someone to do
> the documentation, because it takes a lot of time to volunteer and those
> that have to make a living do not have such time free. Then that
> documentation was volunteered to ofbiz community.
> 
> I limit my volunteer time per subject on the mailing list to 15 min,
> unless i have a vested interest in it. I have even stopped answering on
> here because my time has become very limited. as an example this email
> took over two hours to finish because of interruptions to do business.
> 
> so maybe others that have the time will volunteer the information you
> desire.
> 
> Most find the charge for the "BOOK" a lot less than hiring someone, or
> volunteering the time to document.
> 
> That said, feel free once you understand to volunteer you time to
> documented this the way you think it should be done.
> BTW I have made this offer to others that presented the same proposal in
> the past and they have not volunteer such documentation yet.
> 
> I would suggest you draw an organizational chart then use the fields in
> ofbiz to associated the chart to relationships. There is no "ONE"
> organization chart.
> 
> Demo employee shows two relationships as examples, in a normal Company
> there may be many relationships. like the one that says the demo
> employee is a employee.
> 
> you would use roles and relationship
> 
> Mansour Al Akeel sent the following on 6/27/2011 4:28 AM:
> > BJ thank you.
> > 
> > My question is related more to ofbiz usage. In the relationship page:
> > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/partymgr/control/EditPartyRelationships?partyId=DemoEmployee
> > you can see some fields that are not clear to me. To be more specific, We have:
> > in the role of  |	is A 	of Party 	| in the role of 	
> > 
> > There two relations for DemoEmployee. And each relation has two fields
> > "in the Role Of".
> > Further more, there is some confusion about where to relate employee
> > to organization. I mean if you go to:
> > 
> > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/partymgr/control/viewprofile?partyId=DemoEmployee
> > 
> > You will see four tabs with labels indicates similar functionality:
> > -Roles
> > -Link Party
> > -Relationships
> > -Segments
> > 
> > 
> > What is the difference between these ? To add employee to Organization
> > I need to use ..... ?
> > May be it's a good opportunity to discuss and document each of them,
> > instead of referring me to the "BOOK" ;)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:10 PM, BJ Freeman <bjfree@free-man.net> wrote:
> >> there is not much documented in ofbiz about party.
> >> however if you read the Data model book Vol I you will see a lot about
> >> partyrelationsips. Good diagram on pg 41
> >> In this case you would have party relationship with the company that
> >> supplies contractors
> >> so you need to setup the roles of each party then setup the relationship
> >> between them
> >> start with organizational party relationship then individual (person)
> >> realtionships with organizations.
> >>
> >> example
> >> the programmer would be a employee role with the recruitment company if
> >> they contract, then the programmer would have a contractor relationship
> >> with the Company.
> >>
> >> the rest you can get from the demo data or you can look at the demo site
> >> at the different parties to see the relationships.
> >>
> >> Mansour Al Akeel sent the following on 6/26/2011 4:43 PM:
> >>> Hello all,
> >>> I didn't use the parties component extensively, and don't know a lot about
it.
> >>> Here's the scenario we have. Three Group parties:
> >>> Programmers
> >>> Recruiter
> >>> Sales /marketing/Distributing
> >>> The distributor obtains the requirements and hires the Programmers
> >>> through the "Recruitment" company. Billing is done by hour.
> >>> In each company there's two employees that interact with the system.
> >>> programmer1 , programmer2
> >>> hr manager 1, hr manager2
> >>> project manager1, project manager2
> >>>
> >>> We need to setup the system, to handle the requirements communication,
> >>> timesheet, project management ... etc.
> >>> I have created the three group parties, and 6 employees parties, and
> >>> stopped there not knowing how to connect them.
> >>>
> >>> How to associate users (employee) with companies (Group Party) ?
> >>> I tried to go to Relationships page and use  "Add other party
> >>> relationship", but those fields are not clear to me. For example  "in
> >>> the Role of" .... etc.
> >>> Let's say I need to put hr_manager1 as an employee of "Recruiter" ??
> >>> How many accounts I need, knowing that the recruiter get a percentage ?
> >>>
> >>> What do I need to do after that ?
> >>>
> >>> Guessing is not very help full here as it relies on trial and error,
> >>> and an error may not be initially visible. So I like to get an advice
> >>> from someone with more experience in this area.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>
> > 

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