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From BJ Freeman <bjf...@free-man.net>
Subject Re: changing themes in flat grey.
Date Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:25:13 GMT
I see what you mean.
looks like one of IE gotchas for CSS
can't test on latest trunk since someone remove the admin rights from 
the products application.


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BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
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Mike sent the following on 2/4/2011 8:26 AM:
> I noticed you are using Firefox.  Have you had the chance to test
> "Browse Catalogs/Categories" using IE?  Even with the original
> oldschool theme, it doesn't work for me.  Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Adrian Crum
> <adrian.crum@sandglass-software.com>  wrote:
>> Still working on it...
>>
>> http://www.sandglass-software.com/temp/1280x768.JPG
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On 2/3/2011 9:15 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the pic BJ! It demonstrates some of the things that we have
>>> discussed.
>>>
>>> Look at the main navigation tabs. Just look at them.
>>>
>>> Notice how much unused space there is on the right side of the screen.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be nice if we had a visual theme that fixed the horrid looking
>>> main navigation tabs, and also had the ability to collapse the main
>>> navigation or make it a column on the left side of the screen?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/3/2011 8:55 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> oops.
>>>> guess I can't send images.
>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/customerSupport/ofbiz/800x600.jpg
>>>>
>>>> =========================
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>
>>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 2/3/2011 8:45 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>> here is the oldschool 800x600
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =========================
>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>
>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:43 AM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We did design to the minimum. Flat Grey was tested down to IE7 on
>>>>>> Windows XP at
>>>>>> 800x600. Here is a screen shot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster*
>>>>>> 801.671.0769
>>>>>> contact@ryanlfoster.com<mailto:contact@ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:26 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how many companies to you know that go out and get the latest
and
>>>>>>> greatest.
>>>>>>> most have a 15in 1024x768, that I deal with.
>>>>>>> and a lot use the new netbooks which have a 10in to 11in 1024x600
>>>>>>> should not we design for the minimum standard with the ability
to use
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> newer stuff?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>
>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> adrian.crum@sandglass-software.com<mailto:adrian.crum@sandglass-software.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:09 AM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or have the option to move the masthead and main navigation
to a
>>>>>>>> column.
>>>>>>>> Modern wide screen monitors have plenty of horizontal space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a patch that does that, but it's not ready for committing
yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quoting Ryan
>>>>>>>> Foster<contact@ryanlfoster.com<mailto:contact@ryanlfoster.com>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real
estate and
>>>>>>>>> compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the
"Old School"
>>>>>>>>> (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian
Grey" (New Flat
>>>>>>>>> Grey), I believe there is actually more total workspace
area in the
>>>>>>>>> new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in
relation to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> fold on the old vs. new.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do think that it would be be a good idea, however,
to add back in
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the new theme the ability to collapse the header again.
That way, if
>>>>>>>>> you are working in a particular application such as the
Catalog
>>>>>>>>> Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period of
time and did
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> have an immediate need for the main application nav,
you could
>>>>>>>>> collapse it out of the way and free up even more screen
space.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster
>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769
>>>>>>>>> contact@ryanlfoster.com<mailto:contact@ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under
accessibility
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not
a biggy to me.
>>>>>>>>>> however all the extra component tabs at the top goes
against the
>>>>>>>>>> reason they were put at the bottom in the first place,
and the real
>>>>>>>>>> estate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> just my 2 cnets
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> adrian.crum@sandglass-software.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:adrian.crum@sandglass-software.com>
 sent the following on
>>>>>>>>>> 2/2/2011
>>>>>>>>>> 12:08 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending
on your POV) of
>>>>>>>>>>> the old
>>>>>>>>>>> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links.
Everything was
>>>>>>>>>>> made as
>>>>>>>>>>> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges
and opens up things
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> bit,
>>>>>>>>>>> but at the cost of less work area space.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Quoting BJ
>>>>>>>>>>> Freeman<bjfree@free-man.net<mailto:bjfree@free-man.net>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> just a note:
>>>>>>>>>>>> under freeing up screen space
>>>>>>>>>>>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the
screen takes up real
>>>>>>>>>>>> estate also.
>>>>>>>>>>>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing
less screen space.
>>>>>>>>>>>> when comparing the now Old school to the
new flat Grey I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>> screen space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011
11:44 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The vast majority of end users are only
going to setting their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once.
A typical user will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their personal preferences and may never
change it again. Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is information is of a peripheral nature,
it was moved to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> footer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeing up more screen space for the
more important day-to-day
>>>>>>>>>>>>> information, and de-cluttering the header
to put the focus on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact@ryanlfoster.com<mailto:contact@ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my screen only get half a page
so don't see the bottom,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scrolling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if there a reason it can't be on
the top where the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on
1/31/2011 9:50 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page.
All preferences, including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zone, Language,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer
on the Flat Grey theme.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see
image attachments on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list, but I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact@ryanlfoster.com<mailto:contact@ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM,
BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did this get added if so
where.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once flat grey is added can
not see the themes selection.a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with
Supplier Automation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad
to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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