Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ofbiz-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 54983 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2010 18:00:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 8 Oct 2010 18:00:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 8682 invoked by uid 500); 8 Oct 2010 18:00:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ofbiz-user-archive@ofbiz.apache.org Received: (qmail 8662 invoked by uid 500); 8 Oct 2010 18:00:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@ofbiz.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@ofbiz.apache.org Received: (qmail 8654 invoked by uid 99); 8 Oct 2010 18:00:21 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:00:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of bjfree@free-man.net designates 69.94.133.32 as permitted sender) Received: from [69.94.133.32] (HELO main.free-man.net) (69.94.133.32) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:00:16 +0000 Received: from 125.sub-72-102-164.myvzw.com ([72.102.164.125]) by main.free-man.net (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.2) with SMTP ID 905 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CAF5C1D.2070203@free-man.net> Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:59:57 -0700 From: BJ Freeman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: James References: <4CAF2B6F.9070804@free-man.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are many considerations My main one is human engineering. So I ask myself from a users point of view is is easier to have a external mail system they can follow easily with a few config files or a system that requires programming. That is a no brainer. From a production point of view do I really want to stop and start ofbiz to do mail maintainence. Answer No. If you not going to use a Third party Mail service you don't need the spam, virus, and other mail filtering that is already in James. the RFC for mail server pretty much explain the basics. However till you see the real world effort to misuse the mailserver or spammer and those that want to Jam up the Internet, you don't appreciate what James does. Baically you set up a dns Mx record that point to the server with the mailserver on it. the Mail server usually uses standard port to receive the Ehlo and Helo queries. That is when the real world step in and starts to mess with you mail server. Just as a side note I run 150 threads to handle the Ehelo ahd Helo ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation Specialtymarket.com Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/8/2010 9:10 AM: > From: "BJ Freeman" >> basically ofbiz will only work with one email account as it setup. > > Form JavaMailContainer.java, it seems you can set many listeners. > >> So if you have many email accounts that are needed then james can be >> configure to receive all these accounts and funnel then into one account. > > I see. It's used as a mail client forwarding to the JavaMailContainer, > that's it? > >> I Still use MCA to route emails to other services like shippers >> notification, Inventory updates from suppliers. >> >> and IN my case I use it for multiple domains >> It also provides the outgoing mail server without using someone else's >> so you have your domain in the email instead of gmail or such. >> though this last can be gotten from other services it is nice not to >> have to pay for it. > > Yes, sure! > >> Finally Since I provide POP3 and Imap service to email clients as well >> it just makes it easier to handle emails in one place. > > Thanks BJ > > Jacques > >> >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/7/2010 7:22 AM: >> >> >>> Hi BJ, >>> >>> I saw some messages from you were you spoke about Apache James. I >>> understand that's it more powerful than MCA (notably for handling spam, >>> etc.), but I wonder how you use it exactly with OFBiz. >>> Because I see how you can retrieve emails from any server with OFBiz >>> JavaMail container but I wonder where you put James in this scheme. >>> Could you explain in few words, please? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> >> > >