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From "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
Subject Re: James
Date Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:59:22 GMT
From: "BJ Freeman" <bjfree@free-man.net>
> There are many considerations
> My main one is human engineering.
> So I ask myself
> from a users point of view is is easier to have a external mail system they can follow
easily with a few config files or a system 
> that requires programming. That is a no brainer.
> From a production point of view do I really want to stop and start ofbiz to do mail maintainence.
Answer No.

I did not thought about the production aspect, good point indeed!

> If you not going to use a Third party Mail service you don't need the spam, virus, and
other mail filtering that is already in 
> James.

That's what I find interesting, more filters for spam is always better... I know what I'm
talking about...

> the RFC for mail server pretty much explain the basics.
> However till you see the real world effort to misuse the mailserver or spammer and those
that want to Jam up the Internet, you 
> don't appreciate what James does.

Actually the sole experience I have with a mail server was some years ago. It was on a Windows
2003 server (not my choice!) and I 
had to use Merak (now IceWarp) but without all the options. Most of the time it was cool,
but sometimes a nightmare (especially when 
users don't want to understand about spam).

> Baically you set up a dns Mx record that point to the server with the mailserver on it.
> the Mail server usually uses standard port to receive the Ehlo and Helo queries.
> That is when the real world step in and starts to mess with you mail server.
> Just as a side note I run 150 threads to handle the Ehelo ahd Helo

I think I have to read the RFC in details because my knowledge is limited to what I used with
Merak (which is already a good 

Thanks BJ!


> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/8/2010 9:10 AM:
>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bjfree@free-man.net>
>>> basically ofbiz will only work with one email account as it setup.
>> Form JavaMailContainer.java, it seems you can set many listeners.
>>> So if you have many email accounts that are needed then james can be
>>> configure to receive all these accounts and funnel then into one account.
>> I see. It's used as a mail client forwarding to the JavaMailContainer,
>> that's it?
>>> I Still use MCA to route emails to other services like shippers
>>> notification, Inventory updates from suppliers.
>>> and IN my case I use it for multiple domains
>>> It also provides the outgoing mail server without using someone else's
>>> so you have your domain in the email instead of gmail or such.
>>> though this last can be gotten from other services it is nice not to
>>> have to pay for it.
>> Yes, sure!
>>> Finally Since I provide POP3 and Imap service to email clients as well
>>> it just makes it easier to handle emails in one place.
>> Thanks BJ
>> Jacques
>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/7/2010 7:22 AM:
>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>> I saw some messages from you were you spoke about Apache James. I
>>>> understand that's it more powerful than MCA (notably for handling spam,
>>>> etc.), but I wonder how you use it exactly with OFBiz.
>>>> Because I see how you can retrieve emails from any server with OFBiz
>>>> JavaMail container but I wonder where you put James in this scheme.
>>>> Could you explain in few words, please?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jacques

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