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From BJ Freeman <bjf...@free-man.net>
Subject Contributor branch Proposal, was: Contributor branches was: Attaching files to a product
Date Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:21:09 GMT
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Contributors+Branch+proposal

BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/9/2010 11:07 PM:
> I am writing a proposal for Contributors branch.
> some of the points are:
> 1)components not continued to be supported in the specialpurpose get
> move to the contributors branch till interest is renewed.
> this would simplify maintaining the trunk but allow people to pull it
> down if they want to work on it.
> 2)there is no guarantee of the ofbiz community support of the
> contributions.
> 3)people can test the contribution and may vote to include it in the trunk.
> 4)it gives one place to make sure all contributions are integrated with
> the latest trunk and each other without effecting the trunk.
>
> it puzzles me that it is ok open a branch to collorate, but when
> opportunity to have a lot of contributions avalible that would spread
> Ofbiz acceptance you bulk. under you logic that it can be done elsewhere
> why not do the same for Hippo.
> I would be interested in your reasons why besides it can be elsewhere.
>
>
>
> Scott Gray sent the following on 7/9/2010 10:27 PM:
>> What need would contributor branches meet that can't already be met
>> using the likes of sourceforge, google code or github?
>>
>> Regarding your other statements, at some point Hans you are going to
>> need to ask yourself why it is mostly only your commits that cause so
>> much negative discussion. Everyone else seems to work together just
>> fine for the most part. I'm not saying it's all your fault but you
>> can't just blame everyone else for these problems and ignore your own
>> contribution to them.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> On 10/07/2010, at 2:54 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> I have the same opinion as you BJ, even as a committer it is too much
>>> problem contributing because of the number of technical people in the
>>> PMC which often only judge on technical qualities and making the system
>>> technically as difficult as possible.
>>>
>>> The current discussion (not really sure if it is one) between Adrian and
>>> me is a good example.
>>>
>>> I think it would be a good idea to have contributor branches. Other PMC
>>> members who would support this?
>>>
>>> To be honest i think that you should try to become a committer, i know
>>> why you did not accept in the past, but please reconsider.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 18:33 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> my goal has always been to have this ofbiz do this. it has never
>>>> been my
>>>> intent to have a seperate ofbiz. Nor am I promoting mine.
>>>> my problem up to now has been acceptance and resources.
>>>> I see the winds changing on acceptance and I have gotten the resources.
>>>> if you note I suggest years ago to have contributor branches.
>>>> Had that happened I would have contributed to it instead of create
>>>> mine.
>>>> I see the equivalent of contributor branch happening more like the
>>>> Current Hippo branch.
>>>> so if someone wants to open a branch I can just submit to, it would be
>>>> faster, however i am happy to provide Jiras.
>>>> so if the Jiras I put patches in are accepted then the ofbiz will work
>>>> the same as the one I have.
>>>> Note my first major move to accomplish this
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3852
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 7/9/2010 5:18 PM:
>>>>> On 10/07/2010, at 1:06 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> a product is more of a marketing item
>>>>>> a part is a description of a function
>>>>>> they vary for engineering and manufacturing. Engineering does not
>>>>>> assign a commercial product to the part where manufacture may list
>>>>>> many actual purchase parts that will never be sold individually.
>>>>>> I see in the model book the one I implemented is the alternative
>>>>>> and more extensive model.
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations, where can I download a copy of this BJBiz? Please
>>>>> try and keep in mind that we are discussing OFBiz in this mailing
>>>>> list, not your derivative of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 7/5/2010 5:53 PM:
>>>>>>> In OFBiz a Part is a Product, so what is your point?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/07/2010, at 12:16 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish to be able to have our engineers link plans to parts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW your quoting is terrible, I never made the statement below
>>>>>>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 7/5/2010 5:02 PM:
>>>>>>>>> I wish to be able to have our engineers link plans to
parts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>
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