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From Hans Bakker <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
Subject Re: Contributor branch Proposal, was: Contributor branches was: Attaching files to a product
Date Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:59:26 GMT
Shouldn't we do a proof of concept?

I will volunteer to create and update a new branch for BJ to start and
everyone who would like to contribute. When the people on this branch
say they are ready we can judge what is there and/or provide suggestions
for enhancement.

After general consensus the branch will be merged into the trunk.

Any comments?

Regards,
Hans


On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 18:21 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Contributors+Branch+proposal
> 
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/9/2010 11:07 PM:
> > I am writing a proposal for Contributors branch.
> > some of the points are:
> > 1)components not continued to be supported in the specialpurpose get
> > move to the contributors branch till interest is renewed.
> > this would simplify maintaining the trunk but allow people to pull it
> > down if they want to work on it.
> > 2)there is no guarantee of the ofbiz community support of the
> > contributions.
> > 3)people can test the contribution and may vote to include it in the trunk.
> > 4)it gives one place to make sure all contributions are integrated with
> > the latest trunk and each other without effecting the trunk.
> >
> > it puzzles me that it is ok open a branch to collorate, but when
> > opportunity to have a lot of contributions avalible that would spread
> > Ofbiz acceptance you bulk. under you logic that it can be done elsewhere
> > why not do the same for Hippo.
> > I would be interested in your reasons why besides it can be elsewhere.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott Gray sent the following on 7/9/2010 10:27 PM:
> >> What need would contributor branches meet that can't already be met
> >> using the likes of sourceforge, google code or github?
> >>
> >> Regarding your other statements, at some point Hans you are going to
> >> need to ask yourself why it is mostly only your commits that cause so
> >> much negative discussion. Everyone else seems to work together just
> >> fine for the most part. I'm not saying it's all your fault but you
> >> can't just blame everyone else for these problems and ignore your own
> >> contribution to them.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On 10/07/2010, at 2:54 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have the same opinion as you BJ, even as a committer it is too much
> >>> problem contributing because of the number of technical people in the
> >>> PMC which often only judge on technical qualities and making the system
> >>> technically as difficult as possible.
> >>>
> >>> The current discussion (not really sure if it is one) between Adrian and
> >>> me is a good example.
> >>>
> >>> I think it would be a good idea to have contributor branches. Other PMC
> >>> members who would support this?
> >>>
> >>> To be honest i think that you should try to become a committer, i know
> >>> why you did not accept in the past, but please reconsider.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 18:33 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
> >>>> my goal has always been to have this ofbiz do this. it has never
> >>>> been my
> >>>> intent to have a seperate ofbiz. Nor am I promoting mine.
> >>>> my problem up to now has been acceptance and resources.
> >>>> I see the winds changing on acceptance and I have gotten the resources.
> >>>> if you note I suggest years ago to have contributor branches.
> >>>> Had that happened I would have contributed to it instead of create
> >>>> mine.
> >>>> I see the equivalent of contributor branch happening more like the
> >>>> Current Hippo branch.
> >>>> so if someone wants to open a branch I can just submit to, it would
be
> >>>> faster, however i am happy to provide Jiras.
> >>>> so if the Jiras I put patches in are accepted then the ofbiz will work
> >>>> the same as the one I have.
> >>>> Note my first major move to accomplish this
> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3852
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 7/9/2010 5:18 PM:
> >>>>> On 10/07/2010, at 1:06 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> a product is more of a marketing item
> >>>>>> a part is a description of a function
> >>>>>> they vary for engineering and manufacturing. Engineering does
not
> >>>>>> assign a commercial product to the part where manufacture may
list
> >>>>>> many actual purchase parts that will never be sold individually.
> >>>>>> I see in the model book the one I implemented is the alternative
> >>>>>> and more extensive model.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Congratulations, where can I download a copy of this BJBiz? Please
> >>>>> try and keep in mind that we are discussing OFBiz in this mailing
> >>>>> list, not your derivative of it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 7/5/2010 5:53 PM:
> >>>>>>> In OFBiz a Part is a Product, so what is your point?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 6/07/2010, at 12:16 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I wish to be able to have our engineers link plans to
parts
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> =========================
> >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [snip]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BTW your quoting is terrible, I never made the statement
below
> >>>>>>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 7/5/2010 5:02 PM:
> >>>>>>>>> I wish to be able to have our engineers link plans
to parts
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
> >>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
> >>>
> >>
> >

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