Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ofbiz-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 51138 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2007 15:03:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Mar 2007 15:03:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 21121 invoked by uid 500); 7 Mar 2007 15:03:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ofbiz-user-archive@ofbiz.apache.org Received: (qmail 21108 invoked by uid 500); 7 Mar 2007 15:03:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@ofbiz.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@ofbiz.apache.org Received: (qmail 21099 invoked by uid 99); 7 Mar 2007 15:03:09 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:03:09 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=BANG_EXERCISE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [62.24.128.121] (HELO smtp.talktalk.net) (62.24.128.121) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:02:58 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.3]) (89.242.10.64) by smtp.talktalk.net with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2007 15:02:35 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.446 [268.18.7/712]); Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:02:33 +0000 Message-ID: <45EED409.7070807@mcnultymedia.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:02:33 +0000 From: Ian McNulty User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: Migration of Manager Ref PDFs to Wiki Format References: <45EC6F43.203@mcnultymedia.co.uk> <45EE5676.8030605@gmail.com> <45EEBB81.70606@mcnultymedia.co.uk> <019701c760bf$613287b0$0300a8c0@LesArts> In-Reply-To: <019701c760bf$613287b0$0300a8c0@LesArts> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Jacques, Your kind thoughts are much appreciated. You're not the first person to suggest alternating arms. I've tried it, but I do most of my work in graphics and video applications where using a mouse is more like using a pen. Yes, you can do it left handed, but it's not a pretty sight! So I've just kept on trying to ignore the pain - which is actually worryingly easy when you're absorbed in what you're doing. It's reminding yourself to do the exercises that's the difficult bit. Which is why your suggestions on software are nothing short of brilliant. I never even guessed such things existed and never thought to look. I'm downloading Workrave as we speak. What a discovery. I owe you one. Many thanks. Best, Ian Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Ian, > > For RSI in mouse arm. Did you ever try to use both arms alternatively > (by days or hours) ? Balance is a zen way... > Use of softwares like Workpace (Windows) or Workrave may be interesting > too. > > One more time : thanks for your brave work ! > > Jacques > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : "Ian McNulty" > � : > Envoy� : mercredi 7 mars 2007 14:17 > Objet : Re: Migration of Manager Ref PDFs to Wiki Format > > > >> Hi Scott, >> >> Your message arrived at last! Many thanks. >> >> Yes it was very laborious work. Getting on for a hundred hours in >> > total > >> if you include finding the right software for the conversion, >> researching the extent of the currently existing fragments in the >> > Wiki, > >> learning the Wiki markup etc. And not great for the RSI in my mouse >> > arm > >> either. A dirty job, but somebody had to to it ;) >> >> I really am a bit reluctant to comment any more than I already have on >> the current content of the docs. As far as I understand it, they were >> written by a professional technical writer (which I certainly am not) >> and cost something like $40,000 to produce, so they are of >> > considerable > >> value as they stand. I treated them as such, and made every effort not >> to drop even one single word. >> >> As for developing them further, I'm afraid this is way out of my >> > league. > >> Two months after installing OFBiz, I still don't feel confident I know >> how to work it myself, let alone teach anybody else. >> >> I originally started translating the PDFs into editable format with >> > the > >> aim of re-jigging them into something that I or any of my clients >> > might > >> be able to use. But after more than a week's work I eventually had to >> admit defeat and decided simply to translate them as they stood in the >> hope that others might succeed where I had failed. So any further >> development of this material really would need to be done by anybody >> else except me. >> >> I appreciate your offer of help in answering any questions I might hav >> > e, > >> but there are so many that answering them all would probably mean >> > having > >> to write an entire User's Manual yourself, which would kindof defeat >> > the > >> purpose of the exercise! >> >> That said, your thanks are appreciated. I just hope that these docs >> > can > >> now be developed into something useful and that I have been able to >> > make > >> some kind of contribution towards the further development of the OFBiz >> end-user community. >> >> Best, >> >> Ian >> >> >> >> Scott Gray wrote: >> >>> Hi Ian >>> >>> I believe these will eventually end up in the End-User docs section >>> that you mention below, but I wouldn't recommend moving them there >>> until any major revisions have been completed. >>> How do you (and anyone else reading) feel about the current content >>> > of > >>> the docs? If you or anyone else has time to contribute to them >>> further then that should take place on the wiki for now, and once >>> > any > >>> efforts to improve them have slowed down, they could then be moved >>> over to the OFBENDUSER space to protect the work that has been done. >>> I'd be happy to try and answer any questions you might have if you >>> decide to work on this further (and I'm sure others would too). >>> >>> Personally I think you've done a great job migrating the docs and I >>> can guess how laborious the task must have been (I gave it a go >>> > myself > >>> at one point). >>> >>> Thanks >>> Scott >>> >>> Ian McNulty wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I posted news of this a couple of days ago but put it in the >>>> > General > >>>> questions thread by mistake, so thought I ought to try again on a >>>> > new > >>>> thread. >>>> >>>> I've now finished migrating the complete set of Undersun Manager >>>> Reference PDFs to Wiki format. >>>> >>>> I couldn't get access to the OFBiz End-User Documentation section >>>> > so > >>>> was advised by Jacopo to put them under my Confluence Home page at: >>>> >>>> >>>> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/~ian@mcnultymedia.co.uk/Manager+References > >>>> Is this where they should stay, or do they now need be moved into a >>>> public section of the Wiki where they can be amended and refined by >>>> others as the project develops? >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> >>> > > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mcnultyMEDIA 60 Birkdale Gardens Durham DH1 2UL t: +44 (0)191 384 4736 e: ian@mcnultymedia.co.uk w: www.mcnultymedia.co.uk ============================================================================================== This communication is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s) named above and is confidential. 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