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From David E Jones <jone...@undersunconsulting.com>
Subject Re: OFBiz Training (Fwd: Fall 2006 User Conference details)
Date Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:26:42 GMT

Thanks for sending out this notice/reminder with the clarification Al.

It would be great to get 4 people in for this. The point of this  
training will be to help people with some OFBiz experience and  
training to take things to the next level and generally be able to  
work more efficiently and effectively. This will be very hands on and  
give people actual experience getting things done. As part of this if  
people have specific things they need to work through that they don't  
mind sharing with the group, that is perfect for the goals of this  

I've already arranged with one person who is traveling quite a ways  
to attend this (overseas in fact) to do some mentoring if we don't  
get enough people for training. If things go this way I would be  
providing working space for people to work on their own objectives  
and I would work with them on and off throughout the days. This would  
be more "mentoring" than training, but is similar to what was planned  
anyway. The only difference is I'll be working on other projects  
during part of the day instead of spending the full day with those  
who attend.

For those who can attend this is looking like an interesting  
conference, even if it doesn't end up being as well attended as past  
ones. I like the proposed presentations so far and am very much  
looking forward to it.

In fact, this should be helpful to move forward certain parts of  
OFBiz, especially the automated testing part which has been slowly  
moving for a while and I think the time is getting close for it to  
pop and become a mainstream part of OFBiz. If anyone is particularly  
interested in this and wants to pitch in, this conference and time  
spent around will be a great time for that (among other things of  


On Oct 13, 2006, at 3:41 PM, Al Byers wrote:

> David needs four students in order to hold a training session after  
> this
> fall mini conference. We currently have two interested parties. Please
> contact David or me as soon as you can if you are interested, as it  
> would be
> nice to know early if we are going to be able to pull it off.
> See the mini conference description below for information on training.
> Thanks,
> Al
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Al Byers <byersa@automationgroups.com>
> Date: Oct 9, 2006 9:59 AM
> Subject: Fall 2006 User Conference details
> To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org, ofbiz-dev@incubator.apache.org
> We have been conferring on the conference and here is the latest:
> We always knew that it was late to be doing anything, but we felt  
> that the
> meeting had merit as just a regional offering (we already have 6 local
> signups). Discussion and a tour of David's facilities has lead us  
> to believe
> that having a quarterly mini-conference coupled with follow-on  
> training
> classes may not be a bad idea. We will always have a strong Utah  
> contingent
> and anyone else who would like to come would be welcome. Putting  
> myself in
> someone else's shoes - there are only so many people that you will  
> get to
> know at a conference anyway, so the fact that there may not be as  
> many as
> for the annual conference should not deter you from coming. There  
> will be
> plenty of knowledgeable sources at these meetings. The fact that it  
> is small
> and informal should work to the advantage of anyone who attends.  
> Although
> there are no definite plans, there will probably be a larger, annual
> conference next year held somewhere else (anyone who would like to  
> host it
> should talk to David).
> Another way to look at this will be as a great opportunity for a  
> retreat for
> your company. You will definitely be getting away from things.  
> David has a
> room or two that could handle your company for breakout meetings.  
> For that
> matter, you may wish to contact David directly for company retreats  
> that are
> held separately from any conference. I will be covering training  
> below, but
> I am sure that David would be interested in combining training for  
> your
> company along with lodging. That would get your team away, put them  
> close to
> expert help and give you time to focus on important tasks - like  
> getting
> your project off on the right track.
> The details for this conference (which will be billed as the 2006  
> Users
> Conference, but will really be just the first of many quarterly mini
> conferences) are:
> Dates: Nov 3 (Fri) 9AM - Nov 4 (Sat) 2PM
> Location: David Jones' hotel/hostel. The street address is 24 West  
> Center
> Street, Ephraim, UT 84627.
> Phone: My number is 801-400-5111. Others to be provided later.
> Costs: Conference registration fee - $125 Includes:
> . Food - continental breakfast on Fri and Sat, sandwich lunch on  
> Fri and
> Sat, pizza or eating out on Friday night
>             snacks and soda from Thu-Sat
> .Lodging - two nights in a private room at David's hotel (on Thu  
> and Fri).
> Rooms share a common bath and shower facility on each floor - one  
> floor is
> for men and the other is for women. There is a nice motel (Willow  
> Creek Inn)
> within walking distance of the meeting site for those who would  
> like to be
> more upscale. We will refund $25 for each night not spent at the  
> conference
> site.
> Transportation - You will want to fly into the Salt Lake City  
> airport which
> is approximately 125 miles from the conference site in Ephraim, UT.  
> Since we
> have so many people coming from nearby, we should be able to  
> shuttle anyone
> from the airport to Ephraim. Contact me directly and we will make
> arrangements. Because of the distance, you will probably want to  
> travel on
> Thu, but will will try to hold the meat of the conference till  
> later on
> Friday for late arrivers. There will be at least on local attendee  
> traveling
> down on Fri, so we may be able to accommodate late comers.
> On directions, I'd recommend people come to Nephi on I-15 and then
> take the highway east (exit 225 if I remember right), rather than
> taking HW 6 up Spanish Fork canyon (just in case of early snow/ice).
> Presentations: These have not be finalized and we would be happy to
> accommodate any one's request. Since this is an informal meeting,  
> feel free
> to either request some time to be spent on a particular subject or  
> make a
> presentation of your own with group discussion to follow.
> . David Jones will be doing at least on presentation on OFBiz, with  
> plenty
> of discussion on where it is going.
> . Si Chen will be doing a remote presentation on what key OFBiz  
> developers
> are doing and on his use of OFBiz to run his company from top to  
> bottom. (We
> will entertain other remote presentations. Also, we may like to try  
> remote
> attendance using Apple's iChat. There are only 3 slots open for that)
> . Al Byers (me) will be presenting what I have learned about using  
> Grinder
> for doing system testing.
> . Amit Shinde will be making a presentation about the OFBiz climate in
> India and providing some pointers on doing business with offshore  
> companies.
> There will be representatives from two separate India companies at  
> this
> conference.
> . Brett Palmer - Most likely on the use of Lazlo and/or AJAX for rich
> client applications.
> More to follow.
> There will be open time for user questions and discussion.
> Activities:
> Thu and Fri nights will be open for informal gathering and movie  
> watching
> in the common meeting area.
>  This is what David supplied for training info:
> ==========================================
> As a follow-on to the users conference on the 3-4 of November,  
> Undersun
> Consulting is offering training on Apache OFBiz that will cover  
> both the
> framework and the applications of the project.
> This will be meant as a supplement to the new training videos  
> offered by
> Undersun rather than a replacement. The new screen-recording based  
> training
> videos do a good job of covering the basics of the OFBiz Framework,  
> and will
> make a good foundation to build on in this face-to-face training.
> We will answer questions and cover detailed examples of existing  
> code, as
> well as implement new code to help each person solidify their  
> understanding
> of the framework and how it can be applied, as well as how the most  
> based
> and universal parts of the applications be re-used.
> Because of this those attending should review the Apache OFBiz  
> Advanced
> Framework Training Package materials from Undersun before the  
> training. For
> anyone that does not have these yet, please contact
> The training will go for 3 days with a focus on less advanced and more
> commonly needed topics for the first 2 days, and then one  
> additional day to
> cover more advanced topics for those that are interested. The cost  
> for the
> first two days is $400 per person and will include lunch and  
> snacks. The
> cost for all three days is $550 per person.
> ==========================================
> Notes:
> This is Utah and this is a particularly dry county, so if your idea  
> of going
> to a conference is an opportunity to indulge in alcoholic  
> beverages, this
> may not be the conference for you. We will not be serving or allowing
> alcohol in the common meeting areas.
> Suggestions:
> Consider staying over to visit the local national parks - Bryce,  
> Zions,
> Coral Reef and the Grand Canyon. Extra nights at David's place will  
> only be
> $25 per night. Can't promise transportation back on Sunday, but if  
> you let
> me know your desire to stay over, we can see how many others may be
> interested and we will see what we can do.
> Las Vegas is 340 miles away.
> Comments:
> As mentioned, this will, hopefully,  be the first of many quarterly
> meetings. It will be a little rough, but I am sure we will be  
> adding value
> over the course of multiple meetings. So you can expect there to be  
> other
> meetings, but don't underestimate the value of the first meeting in
> situations such as this. It will be a great opportunity to get to  
> know some
> of the early OFBiz adopters and get some good pointers.
> Please send any questions here to the ofbiz- 
> user@incubator.apache.org list
> or directly to me.
> -Al Byers
> .

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