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From Adam Heath <doo...@brainfood.com>
Subject Re: Long: Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml
Date Tue, 21 Apr 2015 22:03:11 GMT

On 04/21/2015 04:30 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Le 21/04/2015 23:17, Adam Heath a écrit :
>> On 04/21/2015 04:06 PM, Nicolas Malin wrote:
>>> Le 21/04/2015 22:37, Adam Heath a écrit :
>>>> My commit is not breaking anything. Why remove something that is 
>>>> harmless?
>>>> Let's be positive and forward enabling; if a commit is reverted, 
>>>> then that reversion has not stopped any discussion, and now the 
>>>> original committer will have to do more work to re-add what was 
>>>> removed. 
>>> Definitely, all commiter try to have a positive attitude to improve 
>>> OFBiz. Your commit break nothing (on technical aspect), and I'm sure 
>>> maven would be a good improvement.
>>> Only, Jacopo start a discussion to improve OFBiz with Gradle 
>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Discussion-migrating-from-Ant-to-Gradle-td4654092.html#a4654170

>>> and adding pom.xml has an effect of bombshell. If you explain before 
>>> on this thread that maven is better and why, your commit would be 
>>> appreciate in its just value.
>>> Before your commit I had not idea on gradle or maven, but with my 
>>> french mentality now I prefer Gradle ;) (completely not subjective!)
>> Gradle is a non-starter.  When I saw that mentioned, I actually did 
>> do some comparisons.
>> In google, search for maven, then gradle.  See how many responses 
>> each one gets.
>> Then, go to trends.google.com, compare the above 2 items, and then 
>> add ant.  You might want to say "apache ant" or "apache maven", 
>> and/or add java terms.
>> Then, also do a "A vs B vs C" search, aka, "maven vs gradle vs ant".
>> After doing this, maven is still the right choice.
> Quantity is not quality

That seems to be a bit of an abrupt statement.  Do you have anything 
more substantive to say?  Did you actually attempt to dig down into the 
suggestions I gave?  Or was this a knee-jerk response to my attempt at 
actually investigating gradle?

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