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From "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
Subject Re: Extending OFBiz: The BigFish eCommerce Project
Date Sat, 03 Dec 2011 19:23:18 GMT
To simplify, I'd say; go with Form/Menu widgets  as long as you can and switch to Freemarkers
templates when your needs go beyond 
what  Form/Menu widgets can offer. BTW I don't know what List widgets stand for Ruth ;o).
Alos you need screen widgets in all cases. 
Remember that you can use Jquery (and js by and large) also with Form/Menu widgets and sometimes
it opens you awesome possiblities. 
You can find examples in OFBiz trunk and R11.04

I just wonder if this thread should not be in user ML rather...

Jacques

From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rhoffman@aesolves.com>
> Hi Gareth:
> Can't help but add my 2 cents here...
>
> First, I take issue with Han's statement: "...it is an implementation of a 'simple' OFBiz
component all in a single webapp...". I 
> would argue that there is no such thing as a "simple" OFBiz component. To my way of thinking,
"simple" adds no value to the 
> discussion. A component is a component.
>
> Second, components are not implemented in webapps. User interfaces - built from one or
more OFBiz webapps - which provide browser 
> access to OFBiz features and functions, are implemented within a component. Not the other
way around.
>
> Third, after many years of using OFBiz and developing many new applications (and working
with existing ones), IMHO the menu, form 
> and list widgets are of limited value. Here is when I (sometimes) use them: If you need
to build a quick webpage (HTML) view into 
> a single database table, perhaps an entity you have added to implement some new business
function, you may want to consider using 
> these widgets. To add and remove data to a single table or list the contents of a table,
widgets work just fine.
>
> The problem arises in that most modern, web based user interface designs don't lend themselves
to this very one-dimensional view 
> of the data model.
>
> It is extremely difficult (and IMHO a waste of time) to build an OFBiz user interface
with these widgets when you have the best 
> tool available (Freemarker) to do this. Use the right tool for the job and you will be
rewarded handsomely!
>
> Best of luck
> Ruth
> http://www.myofbiz.com
>
> On 12/3/11 8:59 AM, Gareth O'Brien wrote:
>> Hans,
>>
>> I'm new to ofbiz; also to the tools and components that it comprises having
>> come from a Windows .NET C# background.
>>
>> I'm interested in your comment about it being a pity that only ftl is used.
>> Can you expand a bit on that?
>>
>> What are the shortcomings of ftl?
>> What alternative(s) would you recommend and why?
>>
>> The whole area of UI, especially simplified and deployed as an end-user
>> package will feature heavily in a project due to kick off in January.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gareth.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hans Bakker [mailto:mailinglist@antwebsystems.com]
>> Sent: 02 December 2011 06:45
>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
>> Cc: Len Shein
>> Subject: Re: Extending OFBiz: The BigFish eCommerce Project
>>
>> I think this is pretty interesting, it is an implementation of a 'simple'
>> OFBiz component all in a single webapp....a pity that only ftl is used, but
>> still......
>>
>> A demo version would be helpfull.
>>
>> what is the license of this contribution, is it a contribution?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>> On 12/01/2011 01:06 AM, Len Shein wrote:
>>> OFBiz Community:
>>>
>>> We have developed an eCommerce specific solution, something like a
>>> "Store In a Box". We call it BigFish.
>>>
>>> Built on top of OFBiz; completely ready-to-go, with lots of
>>> flexibility and configuration options. We are looking for adopters! We
>>> are looking for the OFBiz community to download, support, critique,
>>> suggest improvements, and validate our efforts.
>>>
>>> To participate take a look at
>>> <http://www.salmonllc.com/downloads/bf_deploy.doc>
>>> http://www.salmonllc.com/website/downloads/bf_deploy.doc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * BigFish eCommerce
>>>
>>> * A fully functional eCommerce implementation (a real working "Store
>>> In A Box")
>>> * Includes product categories, products, configurations, check-out
>>> etc.
>>> * BigFish eCommerce is a single framework that can be used to
>>> implement any number of eCommerce stores, all with their own products,
>>> look-and-feel and behavior
>>> * The Product Catalog data drives all aspects of the shopping
>>> experience
>>> * And look-and-feel is modified within the CSS styling and the BigFish
>>> configuration
>>> * With flexible configuration options to fine-tune the user experience
>>> and functionality (all easily maintained in the Admin Module)
>>> * Features:
>>>
>>> * Flexible Home Page configuration
>>> * The OFBiz Product Catalog drives many aspects, including the main
>>> navigation bar, listing and detail pages
>>> * Fully functional Product Listing Page (PLP), with options for
>>> sorting and integration with SOLR for faceted navigation
>>> * Complete Product Detail Page, with options for Ratings and Reviews
>>> * Site Search: using SOLR
>>> * Complete Customer Account Management features, register, login,
>>> forgot password, address book, order status
>>> * Complete Check-Out process
>>> * sitemap.xml generator
>>> * email generation for each relevant trigger
>>> * Flexible and powerful Static Page solution for About-Us, Terms and
>>> Conditions etc.
>>>
>>> * BigFish Admin Module
>>>
>>> * The Admin Module exposes all the great back-end OFBiz functionality
>>> that is applicable to our eCommerce store
>>> * Intended to be used by the business experts, without IT involvement
>>> * Features:
>>>
>>> * Manage your Product Catalog
>>> * Customer Management
>>> * Order Management
>>> * Manage home page content
>>> * Approve customer reviews
>>> * Manage specific Page content spots
>>> * Control how the faceted navigation will behave
>>> * Maintain Static Pages
>>> * Manage email templates and generation
>>> * and more
>>>
>>> * Coming Soon (scheduled into our dev team)
>>>
>>> * Guest Checkout
>>> * Single Page Checkout
>>> * Store Locator
>>> * Manage Promotions
>>> * Full multi support:
>>>
>>> * Language
>>> * Country Formatting (date, tel, address)
>>> * Currency
>>>
>>> * Road Map
>>>
>>> * SEO User Friendly URL's
>>> * You Previously Viewed
>>> * Flexible import and export features
>>> * Home Page "carousel"
>>> * Multi-Catalog, Multi-Site
>>> * Site Search:
>>>
>>> * auto complete
>>> * spell-check
>>> * did you mean?
>>> * search non-catalog content
>>> * store Locator: click and collect
>>>
>>> * Enhanced Order Management
>>> * Enhanced Customer Management
>>> * Integrate with more OFBiz features:
>>>
>>> * Inventory
>>> * Back-Orders
>>> * Warehousing
>>> * etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> To participate, and for complete download / install instructions look
>>> at<http://www.salmonllc.com/downloads/bf_deploy.doc>
>>> http://www.salmonllc.com/website/downloads/bf_deploy.doc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Len Shein
>>>
>>> Salmon LLC
>>>
>>> www.salmonllc.com<http://www.salmonllc.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> O: 516.742.7888
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 

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