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From "David E. Jones (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-2103) Updating Webtool JobList to use PerformFind and FindScreenDecorator
Date Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:46:44 GMT

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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2103:

You're starting to get at a reason with this:

"The goal I am trying to reach is to have UI more user friendly, easier to find things, easier
to remember how to operate, more room for what is really needed."

However, you stopped short of applying it to this question of the main screen, and I'm actually
not sure what the rest of it even has to do with the main screen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm big into user interfaces. During my short stint in graduate school
that is what I studied. It was the case then, and is perhaps even more the case now, that
many recommendations are well meaning but misguided. I use the word misguided on purpose because
that's the real problem... if you don't define an objective and then test what is developed
against that objective, nothing else really matters and the software won't be usable. Obviously
you have to use good practices in order to get close to a good design, but without user testing
and such you'll never know if those "good practices" got you there. 

There are hundreds of lists like the one you sent a URL to, and they are interesting, but
not nearly as useful as the stuff done by (for example) the Nielsen Norman Group (http://www.nngroup.com/).
These guys have been around for years and have both produced pretty classic books, and Don
Norman's book "The Design of Everyday Things" is a must read for anyone who might find themselves
in the uncomfortable position of actually designing something that may be used by real people.
In the retail world a book even less related to software, but with excellent practices and
patterns, is Why We Buy by Paco Underhill.

Anyway, back to the point... without a purpose/goal defined for a screen you can't design
to it. Again, consistency is not the goal but a tool to reach certain goals... so what is
the goal for this page?

> Updating Webtool JobList to use PerformFind and FindScreenDecorator
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2103
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2103
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: framework
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>            Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>             Fix For: SVN trunk
>         Attachments: WebToolsTabBar.patch, WebToolsTabBar.patch, WebToolsTabBar.patch,
> Hi,
> I did some update on webtool JobList.
> Basically the JobList follows now a more recent pattern with usage of PerformFind, Sortable
columns and Collapsible FindScreenDecorator.
> I tryed it in a framework-only installation but it should work in a full OFBiz also.
> If this is OK I think I will do a similar job on ServiceList.

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