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From Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: Some of my thought regarding NetCAT 10
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2018 11:10:01 GMT
Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through the NetCAT
program?

Gj

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM <michal@owsiak.org> wrote:

> Hello Jiri, hello Alexander,
>
> here are my thoughts.
>
> > 1. Tickets in strange state
> >
> > The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay attention to
> > bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are gone. With
> > the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address each
> > issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The dev team is
> > you.
>
> I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people who have no
> idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. PHP, HTML, C/C++).
>
> > Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own
> > misunderstanding how open source software development works. Good news
> > is that you can filter the issues reported in October, trying to
> > reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and setting their
> > status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do that?
>
> I also got impression (from what I have read on pages dedicated to the
> process) that we should focus on testing only.
>
> But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are no dedicated
> developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for developing
> NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I won't raise this
> kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply, the landscape
> of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it.
>
> > 2. Tribe leaders are useless
> >
> > I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious asset for
> > NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with their tribe
> > members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then distributing the work
> > load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding about
> > incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most serious ones to
> > the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If these do
> > not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program coordinators
> > which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT participants with
> > impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration.
>
> OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities are still
> taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this time that much.
>
> I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports summarizing
> activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew where it was
> standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that NetCAT was
> targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for themselves how to
> update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact, suits me
> better :)
>
> Michal
>
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