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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:11:11 +0100
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Subject: Re: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache
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They will not be included. That's what I wrote already. They will not be
included. They will be installed separately during installation.

Gj

On Thursday, November 3, 2016, Emilian Bold <emilian.bold@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are about 4 nb-javac repositories you need to exclude.
>
> I don't believe it's sufficient for Oracle to maintain nb-javac and provide
> binaries under GPL v2 w/ CPE because we cannot include GPL binaries in
> Apache products (category X).
>
> This seems like a blocker to me for the Java editor.
>
> One solution would be for this to be part of OpenJDK/Oracle JDK proper and
> then we have it at runtime.
>
> Same with Graal.js, I don't believe we can use it. Either Graal.js becomes
> part of Nashorn APIs and we have it at runtime in OpenJDK or we switch to
> something else. We could revive the previous JavaScript editor based on
> Mozilla Rhino which is MPL.
>
> Could any of the mentors / legal confirm my interpretation wrt GPL w/ CPE
> dependencies?
>
>
> Pe joi, 3 noiembrie 2016, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com <javascript:;>> a scris:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A key discussion going on right now that we should externalize via this,
> > the dev list, is what exactly is included in the code donation by Oracle
> of
> > NetBeans to Apache.
> >
> > In principle, what we'd like to say is that we're donating 'NetBeans' to
> > Apache. But what is 'NetBeans'? The more specifically we define it, the
> > greater the chance that we'll accidentally exclude something; the more
> > generically we define it, the greater the chance that we'll end up with
> > misunderstandings about what exactly the donation consists of.
> >
> > So -- on the level of the code (i.e., separate from documentation,
> > netbeans.org, etc) -- we could say we are donating 'everything at
> > hg.netbeans.org'. A problem with this is that this is not correct -- in
> > particular, Oracle is not donating the 'nb-javac' libraries, i.e., the
> fork
> > of the Java compiler, which is licensed GPLv2 with CPE and is part of the
> > JDK and is explicitly not part of the donation to Apache.
> >
> > The question is how to formulate that for the code donation, i.e., for
> the
> > software grant document.
> >
> > Since nb-javac has its own repo where it is developed, i.e.,
> > http://hg.netbeans.org/main/nb-javac, which results in 2 JAR files
> > (nb-javac-api.jar and nb-javac-impl) used in Java cluster, we could try
> > this verbiage: "NetBeans source code at hg.netbeans.org, excluding
> > hg.netbeans.org/main/nb-javac". I think that's very clear.
> >
> > A related point is that, of course, nb-javac is needed (not by the core
> of
> > NetBeans, which is the NetBeans Platform but by the optional modules that
> > relate to the Java Editor) both for building and using the Java tooling
> of
> > NetBeans. For that, we have solutions in mind -- Oracle continues to
> > develop nb-javac, makes it available outside Apache, via build scripts
> > these will be included into the build process, and during installation
> > they'll be accessed from their external location and included in the
> right
> > location in the installed NetBeans.
> >
> > So, that deals with nb-javac. Aside from that, there's also Graal.js, the
> > ECMAScript 6 parser by Oracle Labs that is not being donated by Oracle,
> > which needs to be explicitly stated as well. Furthermore, Emilian, as
> > mentioned in the thread he's started, has created a shell script for
> > identifying potentially other parts of NetBeans that we need to
> investigate
> > together in terms of where they stand in terms of the Oracle code
> donation.
> >
> > These items above I will be adding to the Wiki so that it's documented
> and
> > I encourage any feedback to the above, as well as encouraging anyone with
> > proposals of any kind to put together a Wiki around that topic.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
>
>
> --
>
> --emi
>

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