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From Geertjan Wielenga <>
Subject Re: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache
Date Thu, 03 Nov 2016 10:02:00 GMT
The core of NetBeans is the NetBeans Platform, there's no Java Editor there
at all, take a look at what people are doing with the NetBeans Platform


On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Niclas Hedhman <> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Emmanuel L├ęcharny <>
> wrote:
> > For users to have them, they will have to install them on their side.
> > That could be done in many ways (market place, download, etc). The idea
> > is that it requires a *conscient* action from a user.
> >
> And there is also a strong expectation that core functionality doesn't have
> "unusual systems requirements".
> Also, if Netbeans IDE in fact depends on nb-java means (in FSF's
> interpretation) that all of of Netbeans IDE needs to be licensed as GPL.
> and we can't have that, regardless of whether the user is required to
> download the piece manually. ONLY if the optional piece depend on Netbeans
> IDE (not other way), then can such dependency exist from a licensing point
> of view. I don't remember what Legal committee concluded about the
> "Classpath Exception", which FSF doesn't recognize as legit.
> If Netbeans IDE is not usable without this component, OR if the IDE is
> dependent on nb-javac, then this needs to be resolved. IMVHO, it is not a
> show-stopper for incubation, but will definitely be a a high priority item
> prior to graduation.
> Just read Tulach comment on it; It doesn't change the basic underlying
> principles (those nagging bits that we take seriously). It is a Licensing
> issue, determined by what depends on what, and whether it is reasonably
> optional or not. The rest is mechanics, and solved by technologists, which
> we have plenty... :-)
> Cheers
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> - New Energy for Java

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