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From Jan-Kees van Andel <>
Subject Re: Performance issues with JSF
Date Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:19:07 GMT
Also, as you probably know, the second time you access a JSP, it
should be *much* faster, since it needs to be compiled the first time.
If your app is only slow the first time you access a page, there may
be no problem.

But, show us some timing results. Where is the bottleneck?
With a simple PhaseListener, you can measure the JSF lifecycle. Just
count the milli- (or nano-) seconds every phase takes.

And while you're at it, you might also want to print the duration of
the entire request. A filter is a good place, since it also covers the
Ajax4jsf Filter, etc.

When you know the performance of the server side, install a good
network monitoring tool. FireBug works fine for me most of the time.
It has a simple network tab where you can see the durations and timing
of web requests (CSS, JS, images...).

You need to find the problem before fixing it.

When you really don't know how to find/fix the problem, but you're
sure the problem is web related, try the YSlow plugin for Firebug.

If you can post a simple benchmark or something like that, we may be
able to help you further.


2009/7/20 Kito Mann <>:
> Hello Shasi,
> Honestly, looking at your stack, I think you could gain the biggest
> performance boost by either switching to JDK 1.5 or upgrading to WAS 7.0
> (which I'm sure isn't a trivial task politically).
> Upgrading to Facelets is a great long-term move, especially since JSF 2.0
> includes Facelets. It's pretty painless, especially if you're using the JSPX
> syntax (which most people don't use). However, using Tiles complicates the
> process, and it's certainly not something I would try with a larger app at
> the last minute.
> So, read the articles I mentioned, follow the advice on this list in order
> to find and eliminate bottlenecks, and try upgrading your JDK.
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Shasi Mitra Yarram <>
> wrote:
>> Hi - This is my configuration
>> 1.JSF1.1
>> 2.MyFaces 1.1.6
>> 3.Tomahawk 1.1.8
>> 4.IBM Websphere Server 6.0
>> 5.Ajax4JSF1.1
>> 6.JDK1.4
>> Somebody mentioned that using jsp as page description slows down
>> performance. Instead use Facelets. Can you tell what he meant?
>> Also our application has 447 jsp pages. We are using struts-tiles. If we
>> want to convert to facelets how much time it'll take for the entire
>> conversion , as its time for us to freeze the code. Is it easy to
>> incorporate those changes?
>> Thanks,
>> Shasi
>> --- On Sat, 18/7/09, Kito Mann <> wrote:
>> From: Kito Mann <>
>> Subject: Re: Performance issues with JSF
>> To: "Shasi Mitra Yarram" <>, "MyFaces Discussion"
>> <>
>> Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 7:47 PM
>> Hello Sashi,
>> Ok, but which version? I'm asking because I had a client that switched
>> from WAS 7.0 on AS/400 to 7.0 on Linux and saw some major performance
>> improvements.
>> ---
>> Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
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>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Shasi Mitra Yarram
>> <> wrote:
>>> Thanks Kito Mann for the reply. I am using IBM's websphere server and
>>> unix OS.
>>> --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Kito Mann <> wrote:
>>> From: Kito Mann <>
>>> Subject: Re: Performance issues with JSF
>>> To: "MyFaces Discussion" <>,
>>> Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 4:27 PM
>>> Hello Shashi,
>>> A couple more recommendations:
>>> * Follow Dan Allen's suggestions in these articles:
>>> and
>>> Often, as
>>> someone else suggested, the problem is placing time-consuming code inside of
>>> getter methods that are referenced via the EL.
>>> * Time different parts of the life cycle -- this will verify whether or
>>> not the problem is really in the Restore View phase. You can do this by
>>> writing a simple PhaseListener or using something like PrimeFaces'
>>> FacesTrace (
>>> Which application server and OS are you using?
>>> ---
>>> Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
>>> - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
>>> - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
>>> +1 203-404-4848 x3
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Shasi Mitra Yarram
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> Hi All - We have built a J2EE application with JSF (MyFaces, Ajax4JSF)
>>>> ,Spring and IBatis. What we find is, each of the screen takes lot of time
>>>> load. We find no performance issue with Spring or Ibatis (after verifying
>>>> via JProfiler). Jprofiler shows the JVM memory is occupied b JSF objects.
>>>> found that the screen loading is taking time for two reasons.
>>>> 1.The JSF screens (which has cook menu) take time to load.
>>>> 2.The overall screen painting in the browser takes time to load.
>>>> Our JSF screens are not too complicated and even the simplest screen
>>>> takes time to load. Note that each of the screens always loads JSCookMenu.
>>>> We visited apache site for tuning JSF. As per their suggestion we did the
>>>> following
>>>> 1. We set the State saving mechanism as server side.
>>>> 2. Serialization of session objects was set to false.
>>>> 3. Compression of objects was set to false.
>>>> 4. Streaming Add Resource and t:documentHead were added.
>>>> But none of these improved the performance.
>>>> The overall screen takes time and I'm wondering if we should do
>>>> effective caching of images,CSS and js files. I visited plenty of websites
>>>> and tried to move all these client specific files under the <head>
>>>> loaded the images via CSS but nothing helps. We have high capacity machines
>>>> and I dont think desktop config is playing a role.
>>>> We thought the problem could be bcos of network traffic or slow
>>>> performance of underlying platform websphere server. We checked other
>>>> application running in the same envrironment and they are extremely fast.
>>>> The only difference b/n our application and the other is JSF.
>>>> I'm short of solutions. Any valuable input will be greatly appreciated.
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