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From "Michael Heinen" <>
Subject RE: how to reset submitted values caused by validation errors ?
Date Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:57:46 GMT

Thanks for discussing this with me.

I think this is a major downside in the JSF implementation and makes the
usage with AJAX very difficult, inconvenient or even impossible. This
would mean that I have to use component bindings for all values that are
converted to Non-Strings or validated.

(I don't like component bindings at all and I don't use them in any of
my JSF applications.
>From my point of view they complicate development. 
But I don't want to start a discussion regarding component bindings here
;-) So back to my problem ... )

I played a little bit with UIInput and removed _submittedValue from
stateSaving (saveState and restoreState).
This seems to work in my usecases.
a) If the form is submitted via ajax with an invalid date that is
*INSIDE* the submitted region then the submitted value is redisplayed
b) If the form is submitted via ajax with an invalid date that is
*OUTSIDE* the submitted region then the new value that I set in my
ActionListener is displayed.

As I mentioned I use serverside state saving.

But currently I am not sure whether there are any sideeffects ...

Any help is highly appreciated

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Robinson [] 
Sent: Freitag, 29. Juni 2007 15:33
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: how to reset submitted values caused by validation errors ?

Submitted values should not be transient. According to the JSF spec,
they are to be replaced during the decode phase. If the control is
never decoded (like with some use cases using an a4j:region), the
submitted value will never be changed.

The idea of keeping the submitted value around is so that UIInput
controls can re-display the user's selected value when a validation
error occurs.

I think your best bet, is to use binding on that component:

<h:inputText id="theText" value="#{bean.value}" binding="#{bean.text}"

<a4j:commandButton actionListener="#{bean.doit}" reRender="theText" />

public class Bean {
private UIInput text;
private String value;
public String getValue() { return this.value; }
public void setValue(String value) { this.value = value; }
public UIInput getText() { return text; }
public void setText(UIInput text) { this.text = text; }
public void doit(ActionEvent evt) {
  value = "cleared";
  // clear any settings in text:

Now the input text should have a value of "cleared" instead of the
submitted value


On 6/29/07, Michael Heinen <> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> yes, the control is reRendered and part of the reRendered attribute of
> the cancel-button.
> If I place a t:outputText with the identical valueBinding before the
> t:inputText then the right value is displayed as normal text.
> But the inputText contains the old submitted value, which is still set
> from the previous request.
> I debugged this many times and verified that the old submitted value
> still set and that the corresponding getter is called.
> The input component is not in the submitted region because it should
> be validated.
> I think this is exactly the problem, that the old submitted value is
> cleared.
> But even removing the region from the button and setting
> is no alternative.
> In this case the wrong date is set again as submitted value (is the
> does not clear it manually)
> My actionListener is called but the old view is rerendered containing
> all submitted values.
> Furthermore I can't create a new viewRoot in the called ActionListener
> because ajax would not work in this case and the whole page would be
> rerendered instead of just the defined outputpanels.
> What about Simon's idea in the previous answer, that submitted value
> should be transient ?
> Thanks,
> Michael
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Robinson []
> Sent: Freitag, 29. Juni 2007 05:59
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: how to reset submitted values caused by validation errors
> Do you have that control in the reRender of the a4j:commandButton tag?
> Perhaps you just aren't re-rendering that component?
> Also, is that component in the region? If not, then that component
> will not be validated and updated, and thus will not have the
> submitted value and local values cleared.
> -Andrew
> On 6/28/07, Michael Heinen <> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a serious conversion/validation problem and don't see any
> solution.
> >
> >
> >
> > My form contains an inputField for dates and a dateTime converter.
> >
> > If an invalid format is entered then the submitted value is not
> and
> > the page is rerendered with the entered date.
> >
> > This is working fine so far.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now I execute a kind of cancel button via ajax.
> >
> > I use an a4j:commandButton with ajaxSingle=true and surrounded this
> button
> > by an a4j:region in order to process no input fields on serverside.
> >
> > The value that is bound via valueBinding to the inputField is set to
> null in
> > the invoked ActionListener.
> >
> > The problem is now that the old invalid date is rerendered on the
> page.
> >
> >
> >
> > This happens because the submitted value of the inputField is not
> but
> > still contains the old invalid date.
> >
> > Therefore the valueBinding is not evaluated in the getter.
> >
> >
> >
> > I can't set the submitted value to null in the converter because
> invalid
> > values should be rerendered in case that a normal processing button
> (not
> > cancel button) is clicked.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help is highly appreciated.
> >
> > Michael

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