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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:25:24 +0300
From: "taylan saldiray" <taylans@gmail.com>
To: "MyFaces Discussion" <users@myfaces.apache.org>, werner.punz@gmail.com
Subject: Re: New to MyFaces
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Iordanov, Borislav (GIC) ++

i have worked 6 months on jsf and given it up and wrote my html code
direct into the servlet. the reason is: the whole control is under my
hand, the rendered code is much simplier, works faster, consumes less
space and is more flexible.
we have spent one week for binding a table to a model and making it
editable and ajax-able wihch took too much time. and when an exception
occured, it was hard to detect the reason. one more thing which i
disliked about about jsf was a big bug which was solved in newer
versions but took much time for us and delayed the project. the reason
was a simple synchronization problem where multiple threads accessed
an object without synch.

On 4/6/07, Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Iordanov, Borislav (GIC) schrieb:
> > I'm not sure what "statistics" you are looking for. I haven't done an
> > industry analysis. But in general, JSF is heavyweight machinery without
> > any substantial benefit. Simple things are complicated and complicated
> > things impossible. It was obviously designed by (probably smart, Java
> > knowledgeable) people that have no serious experience with web
> > development. A well-known example is that it still doesn't work well
> > with JSP (a technology for which JSF was designed from the start!) and
> > it probably never will.
> >
> >
>
> JSF 1.2 does (myfaces soon will have jsf 1.2 level)
> and facelets basically do what jsp does. You basically
> speak about the mixin problems of html and jsf (verbatim tags)
>
> this problem is gone in the jsf 1.2 spec, and in facelets, facelets also
> eliminates problems introduced by jsp...
>
>