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From "Neuman, Ben J., A&M IRM" <>
Subject RE: Help me understand component lilfecycle please.
Date Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:19:27 GMT
Thanks for your help. At the moment, however, I do not completely understand
how the 'rendered' property affects a component's "existence". 

>From the spec:

public boolean isRendered()
Return true if this component (and its children) should be rendered during
the Render Response phase of the request processing lifecycle.

Given the above, I would think what I wish to do makes sense. By the way,
I'm working on my first JSF project so be patient if I'm completely daft.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kienenberger []
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:58 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: Help me understand component lilfecycle please.

On 4/27/06, Neuman, Ben J., A&M IRM <> wrote:
> Ok. If my phaseId = RENDER_RESPONSE, beforePhase() is too soon to modify
> component and afterPhase() is too late? That would seem like a weakness in
> the spec to me.

If there wasn't a rendered tag, sure, this probably would be a weakness.

However, in this case, I think it's preventing you from doing
something wrong.   The rendered attribute affects more than whether
the component is drawn -- it affects whether the component "exists" in
all phases.   It doesn't make a lot of sense for a component to exist
without being rendered, and even less sense for it to stop existing
during validation or model updating when it previously existed.

The proper time to identify the existance of a component is when it's
first rendered, and it should then continue to "exist" through the
invoke application phase.

The rendered attribute does exactly this.

The real annoyance is that you can't pass a method (or caller) in EL,
so it's hard to implement similar behavior:


Depending on what you're doing, you might be able to wrap your tabs in
a dataList, then you can bind the dataList to "bean" and query the
dataList for the current tab.

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