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From Dora Rajappan <>
Subject Re: [proposal] A new module for improved JSF-MVC inside MyFaces Project
Date Wed, 21 May 2014 16:34:09 GMT
*Regarding #{ma:sourceActionURL('renderOptions') : render the URL of the action 
How is the URL rendered? Through the RequestMapping of the method as defined with the Bean?
And the attribute, params of the action defined are appended to the URL?
For $.post with this URL, when its not appended with the attribute or params, execute="@form"
attribute of ma:defineAction is not used.
Purpose of this attribute out of scope of jQuery post?
*autocomplete is transient and hence its not required to update viewstate
Script integration via jQuery with action is flowless and awesome!
Dora Rajappa
On Monday, May 19, 2014 9:13 PM, Leonardo Uribe <> wrote:


DR>> How about @ViewAction("/section1", action="exportExcel")

It will not work because you can't change the annotation definition.
In other words, we should make "action" parameter a reserved one.
Also, the parameter by itself can have a converter or validator or a
EL binding, so you need to define that too. That's why @ViewParam or
something that define the parameter is required.



2014-05-15 14:30 GMT+02:00 Dora Rajappan <>:
> <a href="#{ma:getLink('/section1/mypage?action=exportExcel')}">Export
> excel</a>  can work
> when the definition is
>  @ViewAction("/section1/*", action="exportExcel")
> How about
>  @ViewAction("/section1", action="exportExcel")
> On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:01 AM, Dora Rajappan <>
> wrote:
> How will  <a href="#{ma:getLink('mypage?action=exportExcel')}">Export
> excel</a>
> work when ViewAction is not defined as
> @ViewAction(value="/sayhello.xhtml",
>                           params= {
>                               @ViewParam(name="action",
> expectedValue="exportExcel")
>                           })
>     public void method3(@ViewParam String param1,
> @ViewParam("someOther") Integer param2)
>     {
> but  as @ViewAction("/section1/*", action="exportExcel")
> Is the latter not supported now?
> facelet function getLink for action processing is not a bad idea.
> On Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:52 PM, Leonardo Uribe <> wrote:
> Hi
> Ok, I think the idea about @ViewAction and @ViewParam is clear, I have
> implemented a fast prototype and it works well, there is a lot of things we
> can do for improvement, however we should focus the attention in other
> areas so we can give the module a better structure.
> The next thing we need is how to combine javascript with JSF, specifically
> in cases like this:
> <input id="search"/>
> <script type="text/javascript">
>     $('#search').autocomplete({
>         source: "#{some EL that return a link to an action goes here}"
>     });
> </script>
> The idea is provide an input box and then write some javascript lines to
> make the component an autocomplete box, but the problem is we need to
> provide
> a URL that can be used to retrieve the values to fill the box. In my
> opinion,
> mix EL and javascript is the best in these cases, but things get complex
> quickly when you need to provide parameters and so on. So I would like to
> propose these facelet functions (better with examples):
>     <a href="#{ma:getLink('mypage?action=exportExcel')}">Export excel</a>
> and
>     <ma:defineLink id="mylink">
>         <f:param name="action" value="renderMessage"/>
>     </ma:defineLink>
>     <a href="#{ma:getLinkFrom('mylink')}">Render url from EL expression</a>
> #{ma:getLink(...)} work just like h:link but receives the outcome as
> parameter.
> The function append the request path and the client window id, so the final
> generated link will be something like this:
> http://localhost:8080/myfaces-mvc-examples/sayhello.jsf?id=5&jfwid=1di8uhetf9&action=exportExcel
> #{ma:getLinkFrom(...)} just inject the link from a component that works just
> like h:link but it is just a wrapper, so the user can customize the
> parameters,
> when the EL function is called, the link is rendered taking the parameters
> in the definition. The outcome by default is the page itself.
> Please note this proposal is something different from the one that suggest
> to
> create the link just pointing to the method in the bean like
> #{ma:getLink('mybean', 'mymethod', params)}. After thinking about it, the
> problem with that approach is the difficulty to do the match between the
> link
> to generate and the method. EL does not consider annotated methods, so it is
> not possible to scan the annotations from the EL unless you do a bypass over
> CDI.
> I think the approach proposed is something simple to understand, and it has
> the advantage that you can isolate the declaration of the link from the
> rendering, so the final javascript code will be easier to read.
> Finally we need something for the POST case, so the idea is append something
> like this:
>     <form action="#{ma:encodeActionURL()}"
>           method="post"
>           enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded">
>         ....
>     </form>
> #{ma:encodeActionURL()} do what h:form does for encode the action url. Then,
> it is responsibility of the user to provide the view state and client window
> token in the request as data, so the postback can be processed properly.
> In this case, the idea is the view scope will be available, but the
> component
> tree state will not be updated when POST goes back to the client, so any
> changes on the component tree in the action will be ignored.
> JSF does not make any difference between GET and POST, so viewParam will
> work just the same. What defines a postback in JSF is if the view state
> field is in the request or not. Theoretically, use #{ma:getLink(...)} should
> work too, but I think there are different cases.
> There is a contradiction in this case. Send a POST, provide the view state
> token, do not restore the view but restore the view scope bean. The problem
> is
> after you make changes on the view scope beans you need to save those
> changes,
> and that could mean update the view state token, even if the beans are
> stored
> in the server (remember the beans can be serialized, for example in a
> cluster).
> If we take a look at the proposed goals:
> 1) possibility to use a normal JSF lifecycle for the first GET request
> 2) allow action handling and custom response for POST actions
> 3) normal action handling like in MVC + a EL util function to
> generate the action URL
> we cannot really make number 2 exactly as POST actions. It doesn't fit
> because
> "... JSF’s core architecture is designed to be independent of specific
> protocols and markup. ...".
> Really the problem proposed in number 2 is not simple and we should analyze
> it
> carefully. In which cases do we really need that kind of action handling? If
> we are thinking for example in a JSF component that defines an endpoint with
> a
> custom response (for example a captcha component), we need a component
> oriented
> solution, something closer as what we have for ajax. What we have proposed
> here with @ViewAction works in the case the user needs to define an endpoint
> at the "page" level.
> Really the big problem is how to hook the javascript code, so the updates of
> the view state on the client side can be properly chained. For example in
> MyFaces there is a queue for all ajax request, but we need that the actions
> sent that requires update the view state can be synchronized with that
> ajax queue too.
> I think what we have already is enough useful for a module. After all, we
> don't need to solve all the problems at once.
> Suggestions are welcomed.
> regards,
> Leonardo Uribe
> 2014-05-05 0:05 GMT+02:00 Leonardo Uribe <>:
>> Hi Thomas
>> TA>> AFAIR now, your solutions seems to be just a replacement for
>> f:viewAction
>> TA>> + allow different handlers via URL parameters.
>> TA>> Its sound really lightweight and easy actually :)
>> TA>> Does it cover all our requirements from the earlier mails?
>> TA>>
>> I think so, but we need to write some examples to be sure that the syntax
>> cover
>> all cases.
>> Instead put a Front Controller on top of the lifecycle, we can go with
>> this approach
>> and provide some methods to call JSF algorithm inline. We already have
>> some
>> code in VDL.createComponent(...) that does inline compilation, so it
>> is not really
>> hard to write the necessary lines to do so (if the code is properly
>> implemented
>> of course). The idea could be provide something like:
>> JSFUtils.generatePage("/mypage.xhtml", ....)
>> and internally we call the algorithm, and deal with the potential
>> problems.
>> So, if the user really wants to go with a MVC framework and use JSF as
>> template
>> engine, it will be as simple as write the adapter for the framework.
>> We should not
>> reinvent the wheel in this case. So, all other cases not supported by
>> f:viewAction/f:viewParam, which should be very, very few, should be done
>> writing
>> a servlet or using an MVC framework like JAX-RS, and if necessary calling
>> JSF at render time.
>> The nice part about reuse f:viewAction logic is that is something
>> proved, everybody
>> knows how it works, we are just extending the syntax to define
>> f:viewAction in
>> a more familiar way. In practice we need to write a custom component
>> extending
>> UIViewAction, but that's something easy, I have already done it and it
>> works.
>> That should cover most of the cases. There are other cases that are
>> indirectly
>> related to this one, but after some review, it doesn't seem to be so
>> interesting
>> or useful, or can be too complex to implement properly, so we need to
>> wait and push
>> it into the next spec. Sometimes less is more. Let's see what happen.
>>>> Whats the syntax for multiple params? ->
>>>> params="action=exportExcel&someOther=string"?
>>>> Maybe we could think about a more typesafe and readable way. e.g.
>>>> @ViewAction(value="my.xhtml", params = {
>>>>      @ViewParam(name="action", value="exportExcel"),
>>>>      @ViewParam(name="someOther", value="string")
>>>> })
>> I was thinking about this:
>>    @ViewAction(value="/sayhello.xhtml", params="action=exportExcel")
>>    public void method3(@ViewParam String param1,
>> @ViewParam("someOther") Integer param2)
>>    {
>> The method has two parts: one define the parameters that should be present
>> and the other define the activation conditions, in this case, when
>> action=exportExcel. Please note to make @ViewParam("someOther"), we
>> need to associate value to the key name. So we could do something
>> like this:
>>    @ViewAction(value="/sayhello.xhtml",
>>                          params= {
>>                                @ViewParam(name="action",
>> expectedValue="exportExcel")
>>                          })
>>    public void method3(@ViewParam String param1,
>> @ViewParam("someOther") Integer param2)
>>    {
>> I think in this way it looks better. Thanks for the suggestion.
>> regards,
>> Leonardo
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