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From Mike Kienenberger <mkien...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Wiki Spam
Date Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:37:53 GMT
I've added DoraRajappan.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Dora Rajappan <dorarajappan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Can I have edit access to this Wiki?
> My login id is DoraRajappan. I created it today. I am not sure the id
> expires after sometime. The id that I created before is not accessible and I
> had to create new id.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Dora Rajappan.
>
> From: Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com>
> To: MyFaces Development dev@myfaces.apache.org;
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Wiki Spam
>
> The problem was user error.
>
> 1) I put the FirstLast name in as "First Last" with a space
> 2) I put a comment after the name, effectively making the name different.
>
> Putting the correct login id, and only the login id, on the line works fine
> :-)
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Something is still not set up right for wiki editing.
>>
>> While anyone in the AdminGroup can edit pages, someone in the
>> ContributorsGroup still cannot.
>>
>> I suspect we might need the $projectwiki.py updated as per [1] in
>> order to allow ContributorsGroup to edit pages by default.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm#Enabling_per_wiki_override_of_ACLs
>>
>> I am attempting to subscribe to infrastructure@ to ask about this.
>>
>> In the short term, add people to AdminGroup if they need to edit the wiki.
>>
>> Also, there's very little indication of what has to be done in order
>> to get permissions to edit the wiki.
>> I think I'll add a line on the folowing FrontPage "Community and
>> Context / With a little help of our friends" section stating:
>>
>> * To Edit This wiki -- request wiki contributor status from the
>> MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org> mailing list.
>>
>> It'd be great to make this more obvious, but I'm not certain how.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Matt.
>>>
>>> I've added your as an administrator.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Mike, as far as I know I have been the other guy deleting spam pages.
>>>> You
>>>> can add me as an administrator if you like, id MattBenson.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have time to do much testing of this right now, but Gavin has
>>>>> reconfigured our wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've added Leonardo as an administrator as his is the only other wiki
>>>>> id that I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> I searched my mailbox for recent wiki contributors and added them to
>>>>> the ContributorsGroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you send me your wiki id, I'll add you as either a contributor or
>>>>> administrator as desired when I get back later today.
>>>>> It'd be nice to have a few more administrators listed just in case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Matt Cooper <mcooper@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Thank you Mike for getting this going!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Mike Kienenberger
>>>>> > <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I've requested Infra to help us make this happen.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6191
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Mike Kienenberger
>>>>> >> <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> > So I've been poking around for a while to try to set up
>>>>> >> > AdminGroup/ContributorsGroup, and I know what the pages
should
>>>>> >> > look
>>>>> >> > like.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > But I don't currently have the permissions to make the
changes
>>>>> >> > myself.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/general/HowToBeWikiAdministrator
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Does anyone here already have Wiki Administrator permissions?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Or apsite permission on minotaur?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > If not, I'll need to contact infrastructure.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Mike Kienenberger
>>>>> >> > <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >> >> My recommendation is that we set up an AdminGroup,
probably with
>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>> >> >> committers in it.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Then we add additional people to the ContributorsGroup
as
>>>>> >> >> desired.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/general/WikiFrequentlyAskedQuestions
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm
>>>>> >> >> =============
>>>>> >> >> per wiki access control - tighten your wiki just a
little,
>>>>> >> >> benefit
>>>>> >> >> just
>>>>> >> >> a lot
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Long sub-title for a fairly long subject.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> The MoinMoin wiki is very configurable, more so than
some might
>>>>> >> >> think.
>>>>> >> >> Of course, wikis are meant to be open, for complete
and utter
>>>>> >> >> open
>>>>> >> >> collaboration. That is appreciated. However, there
are some that
>>>>> >> >> would
>>>>> >> >> like a balance between open wiki and having to spend
time
>>>>> >> >> cleaning
>>>>> >> >> up
>>>>> >> >> spam each week. Times change, and the reality is, spammers
are
>>>>> >> >> here
>>>>> >> >> and in greater numbers than before. What can we do?
Well, here is
>>>>> >> >> a
>>>>> >> >> suggestion - and one that can be easily implemented
and takes but
>>>>> >> >> 2
>>>>> >> >> minutes (for infra) to set up.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Have your project wiki editable only by a custom trusted
group -
>>>>> >> >> that
>>>>> >> >> need not be committers only - it can in fact still
be anybody who
>>>>> >> >> wants to edit your wiki, they just need to ask one
time for edit
>>>>> >> >> access and thats it. Is this an incovenience? To ask
once for
>>>>> >> >> access,
>>>>> >> >> I don't think so. After all as a potential contributor
to your
>>>>> >> >> wiki
>>>>> >> >> you (project) will already be conversing with the potential
>>>>> >> >> contributor via the mailing lists right? How much pain
is it to
>>>>> >> >> add
>>>>> >> >> someone to the custom trusted group once it has been
set up? , no
>>>>> >> >> pain
>>>>> >> >> at all, a member of the projects AdminGroup edits one
wiki page,
>>>>> >> >> adds
>>>>> >> >> the users WikiuserName to the bottom of the list and
save the
>>>>> >> >> page!
>>>>> >> >> 10
>>>>> >> >> seconds maybe and your done. For the amount of times
you will
>>>>> >> >> have
>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>> >> >> do that as opposed to the amount of times you spend
cleaning up
>>>>> >> >> spam
>>>>> >> >> -
>>>>> >> >> you work out which is better.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> The spamassassin wiki is a good example - those in
the project
>>>>> >> >> wikis
>>>>> >> >> AdminGroup can add folks to the projects ContributorsGroup
and
>>>>> >> >> that's
>>>>> >> >> it. How much spam has spamassassin received since this
was setup
>>>>> >> >> ?
>>>>> >> >> Zero, Zilch, Nil, Nada.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Remember also, any page can have its own access control
which
>>>>> >> >> overrides and per wiki and per farm defaults - This
page does
>>>>> >> >> just
>>>>> >> >> that, as does LocalBadContent and BadContent pages.
>>>>> >> >> =============
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Mike Kienenberger
>>>>> >> >> <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>> Probably it's time to enable some kind of protection
for the
>>>>> >> >>> wiki.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> I've been hoping to avoid that, but the amount
of spam the past
>>>>> >> >>> two
>>>>> >> >>> weeks has finally exceeded my willingness to continue
fixing by
>>>>> >> >>> hand.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Is anyone who is subscribed to infrastructure willing
to look
>>>>> >> >>> into
>>>>> >> >>> this?  If no takers, I guess I'll sign up and see
what can be
>>>>> >> >>> done.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Cagatay Civici
>>>>> >> >>> <cagatay.civici@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>>> Hi,
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> Does anyone know how can I unsubscribe from
wiki as it is full
>>>>> >> >>>> of
>>>>> >> >>>> spam
>>>>> >> >>>> everyday.
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> Thanks,
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> Cagatay Civici
>>>>> >> >>>> PrimeFaces Lead
>>>>> >> >>>> www.primefaces.org
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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