Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD905F69E for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 39092 invoked by uid 500); 22 Apr 2013 14:06:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@myfaces.apache.org Received: (qmail 39016 invoked by uid 500); 22 Apr 2013 14:06:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@myfaces.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "MyFaces Development" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@myfaces.apache.org Received: (qmail 39002 invoked by uid 99); 22 Apr 2013 14:06:01 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:06:01 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of mkienenb@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.173] (HELO mail-wi0-f173.google.com) (209.85.212.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:05:55 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id c10so4457423wiw.6 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:05:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=itMEQ/1lsivDcNGeLxVhXR7G3SawIbHr0r12NNVL8cs=; b=uZ1njJ+qQgbSWVDf5LXL3bu8rQzFT9jfJWMGwv0K77IEhxA2ufpBaLPEThjKUJHDi9 iVltQl5ZYN94tiu4ru0uM3pJyW+HzqSt3ys4g1X5r5Ka8wL6Rok14hFLrssZBjV9HYcv h7fp5HJPS0sXWNaUUhmAVkYoxt9HsjHcO3bsaElj4IEdeU4M3DB41wqT2EdnXn7u6sKn 4+rV6b8+n75Bqz24HPiIdW5SZG/4wCWkXZq3KJYIFun2ZFC7/u6qrfRZlRKoDk2WoUzF u3kuTwUFpclP7PtYsX6BFtz2BmSxj90Hbwe6WicKHyfsClvlwAaxKuqFpgP6+Bh1CsGU RcHA== X-Received: by 10.180.91.131 with SMTP id ce3mr51984138wib.5.1366639505959; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:05:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.240.65 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:04:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4B10E83F1F2645179C5909507ACDDC8A@gmail.com> From: Mike Kienenberger Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:04:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wiki Spam To: MyFaces Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org So I've been poking around for a while to try to set up AdminGroup/ContributorsGroup, and I know what the pages should look like. But I don't currently have the permissions to make the changes myself. http://wiki.apache.org/general/HowToBeWikiAdministrator Does anyone here already have Wiki Administrator permissions? Or apsite permission on minotaur? If not, I'll need to contact infrastructure. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: > My recommendation is that we set up an AdminGroup, probably with all > committers in it. > > Then we add additional people to the ContributorsGroup as desired. > > > http://wiki.apache.org/general/WikiFrequentlyAskedQuestions > > http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm > ============= > per wiki access control - tighten your wiki just a little, benefit just a lot > > Long sub-title for a fairly long subject. > > The MoinMoin wiki is very configurable, more so than some might think. > Of course, wikis are meant to be open, for complete and utter open > collaboration. That is appreciated. However, there are some that would > like a balance between open wiki and having to spend time cleaning up > spam each week. Times change, and the reality is, spammers are here > and in greater numbers than before. What can we do? Well, here is a > suggestion - and one that can be easily implemented and takes but 2 > minutes (for infra) to set up. > > Have your project wiki editable only by a custom trusted group - that > need not be committers only - it can in fact still be anybody who > wants to edit your wiki, they just need to ask one time for edit > access and thats it. Is this an incovenience? To ask once for access, > I don't think so. After all as a potential contributor to your wiki > you (project) will already be conversing with the potential > contributor via the mailing lists right? How much pain is it to add > someone to the custom trusted group once it has been set up? , no pain > at all, a member of the projects AdminGroup edits one wiki page, adds > the users WikiuserName to the bottom of the list and save the page! 10 > seconds maybe and your done. For the amount of times you will have to > do that as opposed to the amount of times you spend cleaning up spam - > you work out which is better. > > The spamassassin wiki is a good example - those in the project wikis > AdminGroup can add folks to the projects ContributorsGroup and that's > it. How much spam has spamassassin received since this was setup ? > Zero, Zilch, Nil, Nada. > > Remember also, any page can have its own access control which > overrides and per wiki and per farm defaults - This page does just > that, as does LocalBadContent and BadContent pages. > ============= > > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: >> Probably it's time to enable some kind of protection for the wiki. >> >> I've been hoping to avoid that, but the amount of spam the past two >> weeks has finally exceeded my willingness to continue fixing by hand. >> >> Is anyone who is subscribed to infrastructure willing to look into >> this? If no takers, I guess I'll sign up and see what can be done. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Cagatay Civici >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Does anyone know how can I unsubscribe from wiki as it is full of spam >>> everyday. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Cagatay Civici >>> PrimeFaces Lead >>> www.primefaces.org >>>