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From Mike Kienenberger <mkien...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Wiki Spam
Date Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:20:30 GMT
Thanks, Matt.

I've added your as an administrator.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike, as far as I know I have been the other guy deleting spam pages.  You
> can add me as an administrator if you like, id MattBenson.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I don't have time to do much testing of this right now, but Gavin has
>> reconfigured our wiki.
>>
>> I've added Leonardo as an administrator as his is the only other wiki
>> id that I know.
>>
>> I searched my mailbox for recent wiki contributors and added them to
>> the ContributorsGroup.
>>
>> If you send me your wiki id, I'll add you as either a contributor or
>> administrator as desired when I get back later today.
>> It'd be nice to have a few more administrators listed just in case.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Matt Cooper <mcooper@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Thank you Mike for getting this going!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've requested Infra to help us make this happen.
>> >>
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6191
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Mike Kienenberger
>> >> <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > So I've been poking around for a while to try to set up
>> >> > AdminGroup/ContributorsGroup, and I know what the pages should look
>> >> > like.
>> >> >
>> >> > But I don't currently have the permissions to make the changes
>> >> > myself.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/general/HowToBeWikiAdministrator
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anyone here already have Wiki Administrator permissions?
>> >> >
>> >> > Or apsite permission on minotaur?
>> >> >
>> >> > If not, I'll need to contact infrastructure.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Mike Kienenberger
>> >> > <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> My recommendation is that we set up an AdminGroup, probably with
all
>> >> >> committers in it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then we add additional people to the ContributorsGroup as desired.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/general/WikiFrequentlyAskedQuestions
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm
>> >> >> =============
>> >> >> per wiki access control - tighten your wiki just a little, benefit
>> >> >> just
>> >> >> a lot
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Long sub-title for a fairly long subject.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The MoinMoin wiki is very configurable, more so than some might
>> >> >> think.
>> >> >> Of course, wikis are meant to be open, for complete and utter open
>> >> >> collaboration. That is appreciated. However, there are some that
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> like a balance between open wiki and having to spend time cleaning
>> >> >> up
>> >> >> spam each week. Times change, and the reality is, spammers are
here
>> >> >> and in greater numbers than before. What can we do? Well, here
is a
>> >> >> suggestion - and one that can be easily implemented and takes but
2
>> >> >> minutes (for infra) to set up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have your project wiki editable only by a custom trusted group
-
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> need not be committers only - it can in fact still be anybody who
>> >> >> wants to edit your wiki, they just need to ask one time for edit
>> >> >> access and thats it. Is this an incovenience? To ask once for
>> >> >> access,
>> >> >> I don't think so. After all as a potential contributor to your
wiki
>> >> >> you (project) will already be conversing with the potential
>> >> >> contributor via the mailing lists right? How much pain is it to
add
>> >> >> someone to the custom trusted group once it has been set up? ,
no
>> >> >> pain
>> >> >> at all, a member of the projects AdminGroup edits one wiki page,
>> >> >> adds
>> >> >> the users WikiuserName to the bottom of the list and save the page!
>> >> >> 10
>> >> >> seconds maybe and your done. For the amount of times you will have
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> do that as opposed to the amount of times you spend cleaning up
spam
>> >> >> -
>> >> >> you work out which is better.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The spamassassin wiki is a good example - those in the project
wikis
>> >> >> AdminGroup can add folks to the projects ContributorsGroup and
>> >> >> that's
>> >> >> it. How much spam has spamassassin received since this was setup
?
>> >> >> Zero, Zilch, Nil, Nada.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Remember also, any page can have its own access control which
>> >> >> overrides and per wiki and per farm defaults - This page does just
>> >> >> that, as does LocalBadContent and BadContent pages.
>> >> >> =============
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Mike Kienenberger
>> >> >> <mkienenb@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> Probably it's time to enable some kind of protection for the
wiki.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I've been hoping to avoid that, but the amount of spam the
past two
>> >> >>> weeks has finally exceeded my willingness to continue fixing
by
>> >> >>> hand.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Is anyone who is subscribed to infrastructure willing to look
into
>> >> >>> this?   If no takers, I guess I'll sign up and see what can
be
>> >> >>> done.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Cagatay Civici
>> >> >>> <cagatay.civici@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Does anyone know how can I unsubscribe from wiki as it
is full of
>> >> >>>> spam
>> >> >>>> everyday.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Cagatay Civici
>> >> >>>> PrimeFaces Lead
>> >> >>>> www.primefaces.org
>> >> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>
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