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From Mark Struberg <>
Subject Re: Wiki Spam
Date Sat, 20 Apr 2013 06:20:47 GMT
go for it, Mike!

txs and LieGrue,

----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Kienenberger <>
> To: MyFaces Development <>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013, 22:28
> Subject: Re: Wiki Spam
> As soon as we have a concensus that we want to enable
> AdminGroup/ContributorsGroup, I'll do whatever needs to be done if no
> one else is available to make the change.
> Looks like
> contains the information necessary without needing to go through
> infra.
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Mike Kienenberger <> 
> wrote:
>>  My recommendation is that we set up an AdminGroup, probably with all
>>  committers in it.
>>  Then we add additional people to the ContributorsGroup as desired.
>>  =============
>>  per wiki access control - tighten your wiki just a little, benefit just a 
> lot
>>  Long sub-title for a fairly long subject.
>>  The MoinMoin wiki is very configurable, more so than some might think.
>>  Of course, wikis are meant to be open, for complete and utter open
>>  collaboration. That is appreciated. However, there are some that would
>>  like a balance between open wiki and having to spend time cleaning up
>>  spam each week. Times change, and the reality is, spammers are here
>>  and in greater numbers than before. What can we do? Well, here is a
>>  suggestion - and one that can be easily implemented and takes but 2
>>  minutes (for infra) to set up.
>>  Have your project wiki editable only by a custom trusted group - that
>>  need not be committers only - it can in fact still be anybody who
>>  wants to edit your wiki, they just need to ask one time for edit
>>  access and thats it. Is this an incovenience? To ask once for access,
>>  I don't think so. After all as a potential contributor to your wiki
>>  you (project) will already be conversing with the potential
>>  contributor via the mailing lists right? How much pain is it to add
>>  someone to the custom trusted group once it has been set up? , no pain
>>  at all, a member of the projects AdminGroup edits one wiki page, adds
>>  the users WikiuserName to the bottom of the list and save the page! 10
>>  seconds maybe and your done. For the amount of times you will have to
>>  do that as opposed to the amount of times you spend cleaning up spam -
>>  you work out which is better.
>>  The spamassassin wiki is a good example - those in the project wikis
>>  AdminGroup can add folks to the projects ContributorsGroup and that's
>>  it. How much spam has spamassassin received since this was setup ?
>>  Zero, Zilch, Nil, Nada.
>>  Remember also, any page can have its own access control which
>>  overrides and per wiki and per farm defaults - This page does just
>>  that, as does LocalBadContent and BadContent pages.
>>  =============
>>  On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Mike Kienenberger 
> <> wrote:
>>>  Probably it's time to enable some kind of protection for the wiki.
>>>  I've been hoping to avoid that, but the amount of spam the past two
>>>  weeks has finally exceeded my willingness to continue fixing by hand.
>>>  Is anyone who is subscribed to infrastructure willing to look into
>>>  this?   If no takers, I guess I'll sign up and see what can be 
> done.
>>>  On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Cagatay Civici
>>>  <> wrote:
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>  Does anyone know how can I unsubscribe from wiki as it is full of 
> spam
>>>>  everyday.
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>  Cagatay Civici
>>>>  PrimeFaces Lead

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