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From Mike Kienenberger <mkien...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5
Date Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:56:31 GMT
Well, if that's the case, I don't think we need to make this so complicated.

********************
If you are an committer for MyFaces, and you are interested in
maintaining the html5 subproject, speak up!
********************

If no one speaks up, then we don't have a reason to add it to MyFaces.
If someone does, then let's move on and create a subproject. :-)

I don't think it was a bad idea to suggest it go into Tomahawk or
Sandbox, but if the folks maintaining it don't think that's the best
solution, I say let them have a standard sub-project like we've done
with everything else.  That mode of development is working, and it's a
good fit with "those who do the work make the decisions"

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Gerhard Petracek
<gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi mike,
>
> i agree with you and that's the reason why i didn't suggest the
> asf-incubator. imo we just need a "quick" community check (esp. for
> gsoc projects) because the overall community is pretty clear.
> all of our gsoc projects which might become a sub-project started with
> one student and we never saw other community members working on them
> actively (after gsoc) and the activities of all students decreased (a
> lot) after gsoc.
>
> actually we already changed our approach. before starting codi we made
> such a community check.
> and yes - in the past we missed to do that with some other
> sub-projects - but we learned from it.
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
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> 2011/11/2 Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com>:
>> I guess the question is what are you (all) trying to accomplish?
>>
>> If we have active committers who want to create an html5 subproject,
>> it seems like our policy thus far is to create it.
>>
>> If we only have a code-dump, it should go through the incubator -- we
>> have done this with other things which are now myfaces subprojects.
>> If enough of the incubated project members are myfaces committers,
>> then it would likely become a myfaces subproject.   If there is no
>> overlap, it would have to find its own place.   Working out how much
>> is "enough" and training up non-myfaces-committers would be the task
>> of incubation.
>>
>> If the goal is to change our policies for new subprojects, then I
>> don't see that incubation or apache labs is really relevant -- we're
>> only talking about our own internal organization.    And if we're
>> changing our policies, I would hope that whatever we come up with
>> applies to all existing projects as well as new projects.  Or, in
>> other words, we shouldn't be treating the html5 subproject any
>> differently than we do anything else.
>>
>> Sandbox was a good start, but we've been having issues with getting
>> things out of sandbox for several years now.   I suspect this is why
>> the trend recently has been to skip the sandbox and dive right in with
>> a new subproject.
>>
>> While my personal preference would have been to reform the sandbox, I
>> wasn't really doing any of the work.   The folks doing the work have
>> been making the subprojects idea succeed, so from a meritocracy point
>> of view, I'd say that's the future, until something else better comes
>> along.
>>
>> Maybe we're now at the point where some of us do want to see if we can
>> come up with something better.  Like I said, I personally think our
>> explosion of subprojects is disorganized and confusing.   But if
>> that's our goal, let's say so, and apply it to everything.  In the
>> meantime, my opinion is that if we have html5 committers, we allow the
>> html5 committers to have a subproject and move forward with a release.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Gerhard Petracek
>> <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> @matthias:
>>> apache labs are only for prototyping and the next step is e.g. the
>>> incubator for building a community (see [1]).
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> gerhard
>>>
>>> [1] http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html
>>>
>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>
>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> Courses in English and German
>>>
>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/11/2 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
>>>> that's stupid :-)
>>>>
>>>> Personal releases are IMO possible (e.g. deployment to p.a.o/~asf-id)
>>>>
>>>> -M
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr> wrote:
>>>>> One important point is labs projects are not allowed to make releases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Android
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2011 1:22 PM, "Gerhard Petracek" <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> see [1] - esp.:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Apache Labs are the place where ASF committers can work on innovative,
>>>>>> > blue-sky and off-the-wall ideas, without having to worry about
fitting in an
>>>>>> > existing project bylaw or building a community around it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we already know that it works and it's just about a "community check"
>>>>>> -> imo labs doesn't fit and the alternative would be the incubator
>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> gerhard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/11/2 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
>>>>>> > I don't get why not just having a simple alpha release ?
>>>>>> > Does not hurt... Or... move the entire thing to Apache Labs...
for
>>>>>> > future experiments ?!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -M
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
wrote:
>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>> >> So do you think  myfaces/incubator/html5 is a good place?
>>>>>> >> Greetings,
>>>>>> >> Ali
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> In my opinion as long this lib is html5 only it
should not be part of
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> the tomahawk project
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I agree, no relation with Tomahawk.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> a different idea would be a small myfaces-incubator
for new
>>>>>> >>>> project-ideas
>>>>>> >>>> (esp. for gsoc projects).
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Makes more sense to me than Tomahawk.
>>>>>> >>> I think (almost) everyone is in favor of moving the
project to
>>>>>> >>> somewhere
>>>>>> >>> else, I am also ok with it.
>>>>>> >>> Important thing for the project is having the ability
for releases and
>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>> >>> jars are deployed to maven repo.
>>>>>> >>> Cheers,
>>>>>> >>> Ali
>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> including our very own little 'attic' :)
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Actually the big difference between the incubator
and a mf subproject
>>>>>> >>>> would be the IP clearance. We really need to do
this upfront before
>>>>>> >>>> importing.
>>>>>> >>>> But actually I like this much more than having projects
developed
>>>>>> >>>> outside
>>>>>> >>>> and only later brought into our SVN - because this
causes lots of
>>>>>> >>>> paperwork
>>>>>> >>>> (gas grants and a IP clearance review is mandatory).
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Thus a +1
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>> >>>> strub
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >________________________________
>>>>>> >>>> >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>>>>> >>>> >Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:58 AM
>>>>>> >>>> >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces
html5
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >a different idea would be a small myfaces-incubator
for new
>>>>>> >>>> > project-ideas (esp. for gsoc projects).
>>>>>> >>>> >we can release parts easily and drop them if
we see that something
>>>>>> >>>> > doesn't work for our community. if an idea
works for the community,
>>>>>> >>>> > we can
>>>>>> >>>> > discuss the correct place for it.
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >we might see new gsoc projects (related to myfaces)
every year. imo
>>>>>> >>>> > it's
>>>>>> >>>> > the wrong approach to just add them as new
sub-project and we don't
>>>>>> >>>> > have the
>>>>>> >>>> > resources/community to maintain them.
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >gerhard
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >http://www.irian.at
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>>> >>>> >JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>>> >>>> >Courses in English and German
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >2011/10/22 Bernd Bohmann <bernd.bohmann@atanion.com>
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >Ha, I don't think we should wait for the jsf-eg.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>Hey guys they are asking for a alpha release.
>>>>>> >>>> >>In my opinion as long this lib is html5
only it should not be part
>>>>>> >>>> >> of
>>>>>> >>>> >>the tomahawk project.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>I don't see any problems in releasing an
alpha release. But before
>>>>>> >>>> >> a
>>>>>> >>>> >>beta we should decide own extension or tomahawk.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>Regards
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>Bernd
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Gerhard
Petracek
>>>>>> >>>> >><gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>> it's planned that jsf2.2 will get some
sort of html5 support.
>>>>>> >>>> >>> imo we should work together with the
jsf-eg to ensure that we
>>>>>> >>>> >>> won't
>>>>>> >>>> >>> promote
>>>>>> >>>> >>> incompatible components.
>>>>>> >>>> >>> regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >>> gerhard
>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>>> >>>> >>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>>> >>>> >>> Courses in English and German
>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>> 2011/10/22 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> +1 for moving it to tomahawk.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> One big open question for me is
our html5 strategy at all.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Will the html5 components provide
legacy html support themselfs?
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Thus a calendar component will
use jQuery (or whatever) calendar
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> when a
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> non-html5 browser is detected,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> or is this in the responsibility
of the developer?
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> if (html5){
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> aaaa
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> } else{
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>  bbbb //fallback
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> }
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> ?
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Afaik our current html5 components
'only' support pure html5
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> rendering,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> isn't?
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> strub
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >________________________________
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011
10:22 PM
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha
release for myfaces html5
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >@grant: +1
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >gerhard
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >http://www.irian.at
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >JSF Consulting, Development
and
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Courses in English and German
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Professional Support for Apache
MyFaces
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >2011/10/21 Grant Smith <work.grant@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >I must agree with Gerhard.
The whole point of the sandbox is
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > for
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > this
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > very purpose. However, perhaps
we should look at the sandbox
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > more
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > often and
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > vote on components that are
ready to "graduate".
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at
1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>hi leo,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>imo such an argument
doesn't justify an own sub-project. i
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >don't< say
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -1. my point is that
we should discuss it (esp. because the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> situation
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> changed).
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>gerhard
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>http://www.irian.at
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Your JSF powerhouse
-
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>JSF Consulting, Development
and
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Courses in English
and German
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Professional Support
for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>2011/10/21 Leonardo
Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Hi
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>The problem with
move to tomahawk sandbox is those artifact
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> can't
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>never be released.
Do an alpha release give us the chance to
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> know if
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>the bits are good
enough, get more feedback, and later
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> decide
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> what to
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>do. The truth is
some people only test some artifacts
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "after" a
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>release. Do it
as an alpha release means "... software that
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> has
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> just
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>been compiled and
ready for its initial test inhouse. ...".
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> think
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>that is enough
clear.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Leonardo Uribe
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>2011/10/21 Gerhard
Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> hi ali,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> most commits
happened "directly" after the initial import.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> didn't look
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> very promising.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> it's great
to hear that you plan to continue.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> however, since
we haven't seen a lot of activity, we
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> re-visit
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> option to
move the components to tomahawk
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> (btw. tomahawk-sandbox).
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> gerhard
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse
-
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> JSF Consulting,
Development and
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Courses in
English and German
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Professional
Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2011/10/21
Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Thank
you Leonardo for volunteering in the release.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Yes, it
would be good discussing the future.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I am still
working on the project. Leonardo and I am the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> only
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> ones
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> at the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> moment.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I am trying
to work on the project 1 night a week, so the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> progress
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> is
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> slow.
I think it will be like this for a while.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> We have
a few issues to fix / features to implement
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> already
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> issue
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> tracker,
and I am going to add more. There isn't enough
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> feedback,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> since
I
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> guess
Html5 stuff is still not supported by every browser
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> not
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> can use
them. So the user profile is more like
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> enthusiasts
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> who are
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> experimenting
with Html5.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> What we
could do is providing fallback for old browsers
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> out
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> of the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> box,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> but it
is really hard to implement.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> About
the future: there is a lot to do in this area and I
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> am
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> willing
to
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> work,
but I can say I can spare limited time.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> That's
the intention of this mail. I think we should do
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> an
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> alpha
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> release.
I don't see reasons to block a release.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I am pretty
sure a release is good for the project, more
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> people
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> will hear
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> about
it; and hopefully we can get some feedback.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Ali
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Fri,
Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> <werner.punz@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> +1
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Am
10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe:
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
Hi
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
an
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
alpha
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
release. I don't see reasons to block a release.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
Leonardo Uribe
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
2011/10/21 Gerhard
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
Petracek<gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
before we release it, we should (imo) discuss the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
future
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
of this
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
module.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
gerhard
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.irian.at
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
Courses in English and German
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4242@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
Hi
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
It could be good to do an alpha release of myfaces
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
html5
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
next
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
week.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
The site for this project is:
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
If no objections I'll do the necessary steps.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
Leonardo Uribe
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> My Blog:
http://blog.aliok.com.tr
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Twitter:
http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>--
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>Grant Smith - V.P. Information
Technology
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>Marathon Computer Systems,
LLC.
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
>>>>>> >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
>>>>>> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>>>>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>
>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
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>>>>
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