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From Gerhard Petracek <gpetra...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5
Date Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:01:08 GMT
@mike:

that's what i'm talking about. if you check the details, you see the same
situation (only ali continued but he doesn't have a lot of time for it).
since i re-visited the situation some days before the vote was started, i
expected such a result and that was the reason for my heads-up.
imo it would be nice to keep those components, however, as mentioned before
we have to discuss it because we already see that we have a community issue
with it.

regards,
gerhard



2011/11/3 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Gerhard Petracek
> > <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> hi matthias,
> >>
> >>> perfect for new GSoC projects, IMO
> >>
> >> agreed - if the student is a committer (see [1]).
> >> however, we would have the same issue afterwards. with codi we started
> >> with a community check before adding btw. releasing a new sub-project
> >> and imo we have to continue with this approach.
> >
> > not everybody is happy w/ current Labs state (especially as others see
> > Labs as a good area fo GSoC)
>
> but also - not sure if changes are coming (soon) :-)
>
>
>
> >
> > -M
> >
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> gerhard
> >>
> >> [1] http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html
> >>
> >> http://www.irian.at
> >>
> >> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> Courses in English and German
> >>
> >> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2011/11/2 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Gerhard Petracek
> >>> <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> @matthias:
> >>>> apache labs are only for prototyping and the next step is e.g. the
> >>>> incubator for building a community (see [1]).
> >>>
> >>> perfect for new GSoC projects, IMO
> >>>
> >>> However, generally Apache Labs is (unfortunately) pretty limited
> >>> (not sure I why would actually do stuff there (instead of at github
etc))
> >>>
> >>> -M
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> regards,
> >>>> gerhard
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>
> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>
> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2011/11/2 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
> >>>>> that's stupid :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Personal releases are IMO possible (e.g. deployment to
p.a.o/~asf-id)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -M
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
wrote:
> >>>>>> One important point is labs projects are not allowed to make
releases.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from Android
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 2, 2011 1:22 PM, "Gerhard Petracek" <
gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> see [1] - esp.:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >Apache Labs are the place where ASF committers can work
on
innovative,
> >>>>>>> > blue-sky and off-the-wall ideas, without having to
worry about
fitting in an
> >>>>>>> > existing project bylaw or building a community around
it...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> we already know that it works and it's just about a "community
check"
> >>>>>>> -> imo labs doesn't fit and the alternative would be
the incubator
> >>>>>>> itself.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>> gerhard
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>>>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2011/11/2 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
> >>>>>>> > I don't get why not just having a simple alpha release
?
> >>>>>>> > Does not hurt... Or... move the entire thing to Apache
Labs...
for
> >>>>>>> > future experiments ?!
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > -M
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> Hi,
> >>>>>>> >> So do you think  myfaces/incubator/html5 is a good
place?
> >>>>>>> >> Greetings,
> >>>>>>> >> Ali
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> In my opinion as long this lib is html5
only it should not
be part of
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> the tomahawk project
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> I agree, no relation with Tomahawk.
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> a different idea would be a small myfaces-incubator
for new
> >>>>>>> >>>> project-ideas
> >>>>>>> >>>> (esp. for gsoc projects).
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> Makes more sense to me than Tomahawk.
> >>>>>>> >>> I think (almost) everyone is in favor of moving
the project to
> >>>>>>> >>> somewhere
> >>>>>>> >>> else, I am also ok with it.
> >>>>>>> >>> Important thing for the project is having the
ability for
releases and
> >>>>>>> >>> the
> >>>>>>> >>> jars are deployed to maven repo.
> >>>>>>> >>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> >>> Ali
> >>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Mark Struberg
<
struberg@yahoo.de>
> >>>>>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> including our very own little 'attic' :)
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> Actually the big difference between the
incubator and a mf
subproject
> >>>>>>> >>>> would be the IP clearance. We really need
to do this upfront
before
> >>>>>>> >>>> importing.
> >>>>>>> >>>> But actually I like this much more than
having projects
developed
> >>>>>>> >>>> outside
> >>>>>>> >>>> and only later brought into our SVN - because
this causes
lots of
> >>>>>>> >>>> paperwork
> >>>>>>> >>>> (gas grants and a IP clearance review is
mandatory).
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> Thus a +1
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> LieGrue,
> >>>>>>> >>>> strub
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >________________________________
> >>>>>>> >>>> >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:58
AM
> >>>>>>> >>>> >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release
for myfaces html5
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >a different idea would be a small myfaces-incubator
for new
> >>>>>>> >>>> > project-ideas (esp. for gsoc projects).
> >>>>>>> >>>> >we can release parts easily and drop
them if we see that
something
> >>>>>>> >>>> > doesn't work for our community. if
an idea works for the
community,
> >>>>>>> >>>> > we can
> >>>>>>> >>>> > discuss the correct place for it.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >we might see new gsoc projects (related
to myfaces) every
year. imo
> >>>>>>> >>>> > it's
> >>>>>>> >>>> > the wrong approach to just add them
as new sub-project and
we don't
> >>>>>>> >>>> > have the
> >>>>>>> >>>> > resources/community to maintain them.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >gerhard
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>>>> >>>> >JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>>>>> >>>> >Courses in English and German
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >2011/10/22 Bernd Bohmann <bernd.bohmann@atanion.com>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >Ha, I don't think we should wait for
the jsf-eg.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>Hey guys they are asking for a
alpha release.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>In my opinion as long this lib
is html5 only it should not
be part
> >>>>>>> >>>> >> of
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>the tomahawk project.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>I don't see any problems in releasing
an alpha release.
But before
> >>>>>>> >>>> >> a
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>beta we should decide own extension
or tomahawk.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>Regards
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>Bernd
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:31 AM,
Gerhard Petracek
> >>>>>>> >>>> >><gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> it's planned that jsf2.2 will
get some sort of html5
support.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> imo we should work together
with the jsf-eg to ensure
that we
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> won't
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> promote
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> incompatible components.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> gerhard
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> JSF Consulting, Development
and
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> Professional Support for Apache
MyFaces
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> 2011/10/22 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> +1 for moving it to tomahawk.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> One big open question
for me is our html5 strategy at
all.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Will the html5 components
provide legacy html support
themselfs?
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Thus a calendar component
will use jQuery (or whatever)
calendar
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> when a
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> non-html5 browser is detected,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> or is this in the responsibility
of the developer?
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> if (html5){
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> aaaa
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> } else{
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>  bbbb //fallback
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> }
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> ?
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Afaik our current html5
components 'only' support pure
html5
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> rendering,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> isn't?
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> LieGrue,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> strub
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >________________________________
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >From: Gerhard Petracek
<gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >To: MyFaces Development
<dev@myfaces.apache.org>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Sent: Friday, October
21, 2011 10:22 PM
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Subject: Re: [html5]
alpha release for myfaces html5
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >@grant: +1
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >gerhard
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Your JSF powerhouse
-
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >JSF Consulting, Development
and
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Courses in English
and German
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >Professional Support
for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >2011/10/21 Grant Smith
<work.grant@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >I must agree with
Gerhard. The whole point of the
sandbox is
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > for
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > this
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > very purpose. However,
perhaps we should look at the
sandbox
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > more
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > often and
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> > vote on components
that are ready to "graduate".
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>On Fri, Oct 21,
2011 at 1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>hi leo,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>imo such an
argument doesn't justify an own
sub-project. i
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >don't<
say
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -1. my point
is that we should discuss it (esp.
because the
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> situation
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> changed).
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>gerhard
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Your JSF powerhouse
-
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>JSF Consulting,
Development and
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Courses in
English and German
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Professional
Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>2011/10/21
Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Hi
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>The problem
with move to tomahawk sandbox is those
artifact
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> can't
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>never
be released. Do an alpha release give us the
chance to
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> know
if
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>the bits
are good enough, get more feedback, and
later
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> decide
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> what
to
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>do. The
truth is some people only test some
artifacts
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "after"
a
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>release.
Do it as an alpha release means "...
software that
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> has
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> just
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>been compiled
and ready for its initial test
inhouse. ...".
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> think
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>that is
enough clear.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Leonardo
Uribe
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>2011/10/21
Gerhard Petracek <
gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> hi
ali,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> most
commits happened "directly" after the
initial import.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> didn't
look
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> very
promising.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> it's
great to hear that you plan to continue.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> however,
since we haven't seen a lot of activity,
we
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> should
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> re-visit
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> option
to move the components to tomahawk
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> (btw.
tomahawk-sandbox).
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> gerhard
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Your
JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> JSF
Consulting, Development and
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Courses
in English and German
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Professional
Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2011/10/21
Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
Hi,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
Thank you Leonardo for volunteering in the
release.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
Yes, it would be good discussing the future.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
I am still working on the project. Leonardo
and I am the
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
only
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
ones
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
at the
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
moment.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
I am trying to work on the project 1 night a
week, so the
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
progress
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
is
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
slow. I think it will be like this for a while.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
We have a few issues to fix / features to
implement
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
already
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
in the
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
issue
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
tracker, and I am going to add more. There isn't
enough
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
feedback,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
since I
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
guess Html5 stuff is still not supported by
every browser
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
and
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
not
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
everyone
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
can use them. So the user profile is more like
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
enthusiasts
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
who are
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
experimenting with Html5.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
What we could do is providing fallback for old
browsers
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
out
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
of the
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
box,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
but it is really hard to implement.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
About the future: there is a lot to do in this
area and I
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
am
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
willing to
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
work, but I can say I can spare limited time.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
That's the intention of this mail. I think we
should do
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
an
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
alpha
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
release. I don't see reasons to block a release.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
I agree.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
I am pretty sure a release is good for the
project, more
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
people
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
will hear
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
about it; and hopefully we can get some feedback.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
Cheers,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
Ali
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
<werner.punz@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
+1
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
Am 10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe:
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
Hi
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
That's the intention of this mail. I think we
should do
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
an
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
alpha
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
release. I don't see reasons to block a
release.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
Leonardo Uribe
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
2011/10/21 Gerhard
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
Petracek<gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
before we release it, we should (imo) discuss
the
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
future
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
of this
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
module.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
gerhard
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
Courses in English and German
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4242@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
Hi
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
It could be good to do an alpha release of
myfaces
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
html5
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
next
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
week.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
The site for this project is:
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
If no objections I'll do the necessary steps.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
regards,
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
Leonardo Uribe
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
--
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>--
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>Grant Smith -
V.P. Information Technology
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>Marathon Computer
Systems, LLC.
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> --
> >>>>>>> >>> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
> >>>>>>> >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> --
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> >>>>>>> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > --
> >>>>>>> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >>>>>>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >>>>>>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>
> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf

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