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From Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civ...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [myfaces] ideas and things to do
Date Tue, 17 May 2011 11:55:20 GMT
> There is still no really lightweight component framework for
>        JSF-2.
I disagree :)

>>        The HTML-5 components from Ali are really great stuff too, but
>>        might take some time to be widely supported. But anyway, being
>>        a step ahead is always a good thing!
Ali's work is great but why brand it as HTML5? JSF is widely used in corporates which depend
on IE so branding it as HTML5 might have a negative effect on adoption. Would be cool to provide
HTML5 stuff if platform supports it and provide graceful degradation for legacy(IE). For example
in PrimeFaces I try to integrate HTML5 stuff like fileupload, charts(canvas) with this way
under the hood. "A component framework with HTML5 features" sound better to me instead of
just "HTML5 components".

On May 17, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Martin Koci wrote:

> Gerhard Petracek píše v Út 17. 05. 2011 v 11:59 +0200:
>> hi,
>> 
>> 
>> imo we should prototype some jsf 2.2 features (at least in a branch).
>> that would help the eg to specify some of the new features (like the
>> window-id) easily and we can get the feedback of the whole community
>> and we would have the basic implementation quite early.
>> so we increase the chance that the new features won't have to be
>> deprecated in the next version (see the target attribute of
>> composite-components).
> 
> ++++1 ! JSF need feedback from real usage before features are specified
> (as final), not after. Only that way leads to framework with real
> useability.
> 
>> since html5 is planned as a part of jsf 2.2, we should do the same
>> here.
>> 
>> 
>> @lightweight component framework
>> that might fit to tomahawk.
>> 
>> 
>> regards,
>> gerhard
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 2011/5/17 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>        +1
>> 
>>        Especially the advanced resource handler is a great goodie.
>>        Currently it is not easily possible to deliver those resources
>>        with a cache header. Of course there should be some additional
>>        work in the JSF EG, but I think Jakob pinged Ed already on
>>        this topic, right?
>> 
>>        The HTML-5 components from Ali are really great stuff too, but
>>        might take some time to be widely supported. But anyway, being
>>        a step ahead is always a good thing!
>> 
>> 
>>        Also Tomahawk still contains a few features which might be
>>        interesting in JSF-2 (Marcus Büttner is using those)
>>        * file upload
>>        * table sorting
>>        * table autosuggest
>>        * isUserInRole (would be great in conjunction with CODI
>>        manages Voters?)
>>        There is still no really lightweight component framework for
>>        JSF-2.
>> 
>>        We could of course possibly drop all the 'basic' components
>>        like t:inputText and stuff.
>> 
>> 
>>        LieGrue,
>>        strub
>> 
>>        --- On Tue, 5/17/11, Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Leonardo Uribe <lu4242@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [myfaces] ideas and things to do
>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 3:48 AM
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Thinking about how can we do MyFaces even better, I think
>>> we should
>>> focus on these areas in the short term:
>>> 
>>> 1. HTML 5 project: there is some code in this area, so it
>>> is only
>>> necessary a bit of effort to get it out.
>>> 2. Enhanced Resource Handler: again we have some code.
>>> 3. Agent detection support: again, there is some code
>>> extracted from
>>> trinidad long time ago, but now with JSF2 we can do some
>>> cleanup/update over this project.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Leonardo Uribe
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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