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From Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl>
Subject Re: [myfaces site] community information
Date Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:24:21 GMT
Hi all,

I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue adding
documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really appreciate to
hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for
detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear if this
is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details? Or too
much details perhaps? Please let me know!

I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to
continue the documentation work after I return.

Best regards,
Bart Kummel

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to
> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below that.
> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please let me
> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to correct
> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the weeks to
> come.
>
> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache secretary.
> I got a confirmation that it was received.
>
> Best regards,
> Bart
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss this with
>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> gerhard
>>>
>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>
>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> Courses in English and German
>>>
>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you could help us
>>>> with pimping our documentation!
>>>>
>>>> For the legal question:
>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts:
>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need to have a CLA [1]
>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot get blamed for
>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned iCLA to
>>>> secretary@apache.org and that's all from the ASF side.
>>>>
>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your book. Please
>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a big deal because they
>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just to make sure.
>>>>
>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if the contribution
>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think we can also add a
>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article are taken from
>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we express the grant
>>>> to publish it on our wiki though...
>>>>
>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s this ok from an
>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check with legal or board
>>>> to be sure?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information
>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM
>>>>
>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source projects.however, we
>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with "Grant license to
ASF
>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)" would be a good
>>>> idea (before we commit the final text).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>
>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>
>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial brainstorming!
>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>
>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>
>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts on the wiki
>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts from my book, which
>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven projects.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,Bart
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming.
>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>
>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>
>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thx for the hint mark!
>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>>
>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>
>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 for better community doku
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and a few projects
>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki to the CMS (tool
>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before we put effort
>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>
>>>> strub
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>>>>
>>>> [2]
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information
>>>>
>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hi @ all,
>>>>
>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information about
>>>> our community.
>>>>
>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project"
>>>> section.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we should also
>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should start/continue
>>>> with our new wiki [1].
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> gerhard
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES
>>>>
>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>
>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>
>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ___________________________________________________________
>>>> Bart Kummel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ___________________________________________________________
>> *Bart Kummel*
>>
>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ___________________________________________________________
> *Bart Kummel*
>
> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>



-- 
___________________________________________________________
*Bart Kummel*

Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
<http://twitter.com/bkummel>

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