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From Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [myfaces site] community information
Date Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:34:51 GMT
Hey,

I like the way it's written. Well structured and the Overview table gives a
nice overview. Also the Getting Started guide is well readable.

There seems to be a bit overlap with some other Wiki pages, but I don't
think that's a big issue...

So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add
some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis.

Regards,
Jan-Kees


2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@gmail.com>

> Hi Bart,
>
> I just read the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project" site and I
> really like it, especially the brief history and the project overview
> table. Great work :)
>
> The other stuff also looks pretty good, but I want the read it in more
> detail in the next days.
>
> Regards,
> Jakob
>
> 2011/2/17, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue adding
> > documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really appreciate
> to
> > hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for
> > detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear if
> this
> > is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details? Or too
> > much details perhaps? Please let me know!
> >
> > I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to
> > continue the documentation work after I return.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bart Kummel
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below that.
> >> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please let me
> >> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to correct
> >> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the weeks to
> >> come.
> >>
> >> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache
> secretary.
> >> I got a confirmation that it was received.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Bart
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss this
> with
> >>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Bart
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea.
> >>>>
> >>>> regards,
> >>>> gerhard
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>
> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>
> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you could help
> us
> >>>>> with pimping our documentation!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the legal question:
> >>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts:
> >>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need to have a
CLA
> >>>>> [1]
> >>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot get blamed
for
> >>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned
iCLA
> to
> >>>>> secretary@apache.org and that's all from the ASF side.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your book. Please
> >>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a big deal
> because
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just to make
sure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if the
> >>>>> contribution
> >>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think we can also
> add
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article are
> taken
> >>>>> from
> >>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
> >>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we express
the
> >>>>> grant
> >>>>> to publish it on our wiki though...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s this ok from
> an
> >>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check with legal
or
> >>>>> board
> >>>>> to be sure?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LieGrue,
> >>>>> strub
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information
> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source projects.however,
> >>>>> we
> >>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with "Grant license
> >>>>> to ASF
> >>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)" would
be a
> >>>>> good
> >>>>> idea (before we commit the final text).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> regards,gerhard
> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial brainstorming!
> >>>>> regards,gerhard
> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts on
the
> >>>>> wiki
> >>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts from my book,
> >>>>> which
> >>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven
> >>>>> projects.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,Bart
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming.
> >>>>> regards,gerhard
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thx for the hint mark!
> >>>>> regards,gerhard
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1 for better community doku
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and a few
> >>>>> projects
> >>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki to the
CMS
> >>>>> (tool
> >>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before we
put
> >>>>> effort
> >>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LieGrue,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> strub
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2]
> >>>>>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hi @ all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information
about
> >>>>> our community.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces
> Project"
> >>>>> section.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we should
also
> >>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should
> >>>>> start/continue
> >>>>> with our new wiki [1].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> gerhard
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________
> >>>>> Bart Kummel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ___________________________________________________________
> >>> *Bart Kummel*
> >>>
> >>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
> >>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> >>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> >>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ___________________________________________________________
> >> *Bart Kummel*
> >>
> >> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
> >> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> >> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> >> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ___________________________________________________________
> > *Bart Kummel*
> >
> > Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
> > Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> > blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> > <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
> >
>
>
> --
> Jakob Korherr
>
> blog: http://www.jakobk.com
> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
> work: http://www.irian.at
>

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