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From Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [myfaces site] community information
Date Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:07:24 GMT
great intro +1

regards,
gerhard

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2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> >So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add
> some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis.
>
> Totally agreed! We should keep it short and simple. I guess no-one
> likes to read endless texts (even if you are very interested in
> MyFaces)..
>
> Regards,
> Jakob
>
> 2011/2/17, Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanandel@gmail.com>:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I like the way it's written. Well structured and the Overview table gives
> a
> > nice overview. Also the Getting Started guide is well readable.
> >
> > There seems to be a bit overlap with some other Wiki pages, but I don't
> > think that's a big issue...
> >
> > So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add
> > some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jan-Kees
> >
> >
> > 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Hi Bart,
> >>
> >> I just read the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project" site and I
> >> really like it, especially the brief history and the project overview
> >> table. Great work :)
> >>
> >> The other stuff also looks pretty good, but I want the read it in more
> >> detail in the next days.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jakob
> >>
> >> 2011/2/17, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue
> >> > adding
> >> > documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really
> appreciate
> >> to
> >> > hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for
> >> > detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear if
> >> this
> >> > is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details? Or
> >> > too
> >> > much details perhaps? Please let me know!
> >> >
> >> > I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to
> >> > continue the documentation work after I return.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Bart Kummel
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to
> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below
> that.
> >> >> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please let
> >> >> me
> >> >> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to
> correct
> >> >> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the weeks
> >> >> to
> >> >> come.
> >> >>
> >> >> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache
> >> secretary.
> >> >> I got a confirmation that it was received.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >> Bart
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss
this
> >> with
> >> >>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best regards,
> >> >>> Bart
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> regards,
> >> >>>> gerhard
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://www.irian.at
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> >>>> Courses in English and German
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi!
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you
could
> help
> >> us
> >> >>>>> with pimping our documentation!
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> For the legal question:
> >> >>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts:
> >> >>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need
to have a
> CLA
> >> >>>>> [1]
> >> >>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot
get blamed
> >> >>>>> for
> >> >>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned
> iCLA
> >> to
> >> >>>>> secretary@apache.org and that's all from the ASF side.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your
book.
> >> >>>>> Please
> >> >>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a
big deal
> >> because
> >> >>>>> they
> >> >>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just
to make
> >> >>>>> sure.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if
the
> >> >>>>> contribution
> >> >>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think
we can
> also
> >> add
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article
are
> >> taken
> >> >>>>> from
> >> >>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web
> Application
> >> >>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we
express
> the
> >> >>>>> grant
> >> >>>>> to publish it on our wiki though...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s
this ok
> from
> >> an
> >> >>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check
with legal
> >> >>>>> or
> >> >>>>> board
> >> >>>>> to be sure?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> LieGrue,
> >> >>>>> strub
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information
> >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
> >> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source
> >> >>>>> projects.however,
> >> >>>>> we
> >> >>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with
"Grant
> >> >>>>> license
> >> >>>>> to ASF
> >> >>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)"
would
> be
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> good
> >> >>>>> idea (before we commit the final text).
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard
> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial
> brainstorming!
> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard
> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi all,
> >> >>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts
on
> the
> >> >>>>> wiki
> >> >>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts
from my
> book,
> >> >>>>> which
> >> >>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven
> >> >>>>> projects.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Best regards,Bart
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com
> >
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming.
> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> thx for the hint mark!
> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> +1 for better community doku
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and
a few
> >> >>>>> projects
> >> >>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki
to the
> CMS
> >> >>>>> (tool
> >> >>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before
we
> put
> >> >>>>> effort
> >> >>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> LieGrue,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> strub
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [2]
> >> >>>>>
> >>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> hi @ all,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information
> >> >>>>> about
> >> >>>>> our community.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache
MyFaces
> >> Project"
> >> >>>>> section.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we
should
> also
> >> >>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should
> >> >>>>> start/continue
> >> >>>>> with our new wiki [1].
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> regards,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> gerhard
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________
> >> >>>>> Bart Kummel
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> ___________________________________________________________
> >> >>> *Bart Kummel*
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
> >> >>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> >> >>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> >> >>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> ___________________________________________________________
> >> >> *Bart Kummel*
> >> >>
> >> >> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
> >> >> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> >> >> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> >> >> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > ___________________________________________________________
> >> > *Bart Kummel*
> >> >
> >> > Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
> >> > Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> >> > blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> >> > <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jakob Korherr
> >>
> >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com
> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
> >> work: http://www.irian.at
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Jakob Korherr
>
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> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
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