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From Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Real world MyFaces 2.0 webapp
Date Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:22:58 GMT
Hey,

What do you exactly mean with style? The layout-style or the code-style? But
sure, I can use any style I guess.

I still need to commit the first version, but it's hard to dedicate time to
this stuff, since it's not work related for me, but I'm gonna commit it
this/next week, even though it's far from finished and doesn't yet conform
to my personal quality standards. But then at least it's committed.

/JK

2011/2/3 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>

> hi jan-kees,
>
> some weeks ago i extracted our basic style for our demos at apache-extras.
> it would be great if the real-world example uses the myfaces-style as well.
> btw. it might be a good idea to bundle the resources -> we could release it
> and all demos just use it as dependency.
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
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>
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> 2010/11/28 David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com>
>
>
>> On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Dunno how this OWB config creeped in. I guess I copy pasted the wrong
>> openwebbeans.properties into the project. It's empty now.
>>
>> CODI is also in now and I'm starting to use it, but since I have been a
>> bit CODI-ignorant lately, I guess I'm not using it to it's full extent.
>>
>> About Bean Validation, we could also use ExtVal in combination with BV to
>> support more advanced use cases, but I'm not going to add it until I need
>> it. When committed, anyone can add this stuff...
>>
>> About BVAL, I didn't use it because it's still incubating and I'm not
>> looking forward to debugging all kinds of crazy integration issues. I want
>> to keep focus on delivering an app and maybe afterwards migrate it to BVAL.
>> What's the current state of the library?
>>
>>
>> BVal works great in geronimo 3 and has been passing standalone tck for
>> months and generally the in-geronimo tck issues have not been with bval but
>> problems with other integrations such as OWB.
>>
>> For maximum portability (?) at least "officially" you might target the app
>> to a javaee 6 web profile container which would include servlets, jsf, web
>> beans, bean validation and ejb 3 lite already.  Or you might try packaging
>> it in two ways, one as a web profile app and one as a servlet app with all
>> the extra support included in the war.
>>
>> david jencks
>>
>>
>> BTW, it's not a *real* real-world app (it's not running in production for
>> a client). I'm not allowed to do that. But it's more an example of how it
>> could look like.
>>
>> Are you all okay with my idea to commit it into a sandbox?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jan-Kees
>>
>> 2010/11/27 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>
>>> big +1 for the real world app
>>>
>>> > useOwbSpecificXmlConfig=true
>>>
>>> This will be _completely_ removed from OWB in the very near future! This
>>> has been the 'old' XML config from the original webbeans spec.
>>>
>>> I'd also suggest to use Apache bval instead of hibernate validator as
>>> JSR-303 impl. This is also the default impl OpenJPA uses by in it's tests.
>>>
>>>
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Real world MyFaces 2.0 webapp
>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>> Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 6:01 PM
>>>
>>> hi,
>>> the "codi issue" you saw happens due to an owb config bug
>>> (see org.apache.webbeans.useOwbSpecificXmlConfig=true)
>>> imo we should just use portable features.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,gerhard
>>>
>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>
>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> Courses in English and German
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/11/27 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>> we could also use it for extval, codi,... tests.
>>> regards,gerhard
>>>
>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>
>>>
>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>
>>>
>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> Courses in English and German
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/11/27 Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanandel@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>> Somewhere in the past I started working on a real world example webapp. I
>>> guess it's already a year ago. :-) But now I have some free time to work on
>>> this again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently I use MyFaces 2.0 (of course), OpenWebBeans and OpenJPA 2.0. I
>>> also use Hibernate Validator. I got a strange error with CODI, so I skipped
>>> it for now to stay up-to-speed, but I guess we should get that one in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My goal with this example app was to bridge the gap between the current
>>> set of example apps and the real world issues that application developers
>>> struggle with.It could also be a nice example of a joint effort between
>>> multiple Apache projects, which would be good for the professional image of
>>> Apache.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, this example app has a pretty big domain model, security, layered
>>> architecture, etc. Also stuff like logging, caching and performance is being
>>> taken care of, so people can compare their app with this one. And this app
>>> can serve as a living documentation in which the answers to Frequently Asked
>>> Questions can be found.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 things:1 Since everybody has a different idea of what a "good" app
>>> looks like, I expect a lot of discussions on the mailing list. But I think
>>> this is a good thing, because those discussions are also valuable for
>>> developers. Based on those discussions, they can choose the proper solution
>>> for their context. Those discussions can for example be referenced from the
>>> source code.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 Where to put the code? My idea for now was to create a top level
>>> "sandbox" directory within MyFaces because this clearly indicates that it's
>>> a work in progress and outsiders shouldn't look at it yet. But then at least
>>> it's in Apache version control. I can also put it into GoogleCode or GitHub,
>>> but I prefer Apache, because I think more people will find it there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Status:I currently have a working app with some pages. I want to write
>>> some additional pages before I commit it. Of course every line of code may
>>> be subject to discussion, but I prefer concrete discussions based on working
>>> code. That's why I'd prefer a bigger initial commit, incl. a Wiki page with
>>> architectural decisions etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wdyt?
>>> Regards,Jan-Kees
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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