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From Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [myfaces site] community information
Date Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:46:18 GMT
Hi Bart,

I just read the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project" site and I
really like it, especially the brief history and the project overview
table. Great work :)

The other stuff also looks pretty good, but I want the read it in more
detail in the next days.

Regards,
Jakob

2011/2/17, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>:
> Hi all,
>
> I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue adding
> documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really appreciate to
> hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for
> detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear if this
> is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details? Or too
> much details perhaps? Please let me know!
>
> I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to
> continue the documentation work after I return.
>
> Best regards,
> Bart Kummel
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to
>> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below that.
>> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please let me
>> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to correct
>> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the weeks to
>> come.
>>
>> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache secretary.
>> I got a confirmation that it was received.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss this with
>>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bart
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> gerhard
>>>>
>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>
>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>
>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you could help us
>>>>> with pimping our documentation!
>>>>>
>>>>> For the legal question:
>>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts:
>>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need to have a CLA
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot get blamed for
>>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned iCLA
to
>>>>> secretary@apache.org and that's all from the ASF side.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your book. Please
>>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a big deal because
>>>>> they
>>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just to make sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if the
>>>>> contribution
>>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think we can also add
>>>>> a
>>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article are taken
>>>>> from
>>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we express the
>>>>> grant
>>>>> to publish it on our wiki though...
>>>>>
>>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s this ok from an
>>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check with legal or
>>>>> board
>>>>> to be sure?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information
>>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source projects.however,
>>>>> we
>>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with "Grant license
>>>>> to ASF
>>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)" would be
a
>>>>> good
>>>>> idea (before we commit the final text).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>
>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>>
>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial brainstorming!
>>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>>
>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>>
>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts on the
>>>>> wiki
>>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts from my book,
>>>>> which
>>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven
>>>>> projects.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,Bart
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming.
>>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>
>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>>
>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thx for the hint mark!
>>>>> regards,gerhard
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>
>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for better community doku
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and a few
>>>>> projects
>>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki to the CMS
>>>>> (tool
>>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before we put
>>>>> effort
>>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>
>>>>> strub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>>>>>
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi @ all,
>>>>>
>>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information about
>>>>> our community.
>>>>>
>>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project"
>>>>> section.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we should also
>>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should
>>>>> start/continue
>>>>> with our new wiki [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> gerhard
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>>
>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>>
>>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ___________________________________________________________
>>>>> Bart Kummel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ___________________________________________________________
>>> *Bart Kummel*
>>>
>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ___________________________________________________________
>> *Bart Kummel*
>>
>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ___________________________________________________________
> *Bart Kummel*
>
> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>


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