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From Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [myfaces site] community information
Date Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:54:53 GMT
Hi,

>So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add some extra references
to more in-depth articles or Wikis.

Totally agreed! We should keep it short and simple. I guess no-one
likes to read endless texts (even if you are very interested in
MyFaces)..

Regards,
Jakob

2011/2/17, Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanandel@gmail.com>:
> Hey,
>
> I like the way it's written. Well structured and the Overview table gives a
> nice overview. Also the Getting Started guide is well readable.
>
> There seems to be a bit overlap with some other Wiki pages, but I don't
> think that's a big issue...
>
> So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add
> some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis.
>
> Regards,
> Jan-Kees
>
>
> 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi Bart,
>>
>> I just read the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project" site and I
>> really like it, especially the brief history and the project overview
>> table. Great work :)
>>
>> The other stuff also looks pretty good, but I want the read it in more
>> detail in the next days.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jakob
>>
>> 2011/2/17, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue
>> > adding
>> > documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really appreciate
>> to
>> > hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for
>> > detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear if
>> this
>> > is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details? Or
>> > too
>> > much details perhaps? Please let me know!
>> >
>> > I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to
>> > continue the documentation work after I return.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Bart Kummel
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to
>> >> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below that.
>> >> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please let
>> >> me
>> >> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to correct
>> >> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the weeks
>> >> to
>> >> come.
>> >>
>> >> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache
>> secretary.
>> >> I got a confirmation that it was received.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Bart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss this
>> with
>> >>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Bart
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> regards,
>> >>>> gerhard
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.irian.at
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> >>>> Courses in English and German
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you could
help
>> us
>> >>>>> with pimping our documentation!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For the legal question:
>> >>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts:
>> >>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need to have
a CLA
>> >>>>> [1]
>> >>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot get blamed
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned
iCLA
>> to
>> >>>>> secretary@apache.org and that's all from the ASF side.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your book.
>> >>>>> Please
>> >>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a big deal
>> because
>> >>>>> they
>> >>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just to make
>> >>>>> sure.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if the
>> >>>>> contribution
>> >>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think we can
also
>> add
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article
are
>> taken
>> >>>>> from
>> >>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>> >>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we express
the
>> >>>>> grant
>> >>>>> to publish it on our wiki though...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s this
ok from
>> an
>> >>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check with
legal
>> >>>>> or
>> >>>>> board
>> >>>>> to be sure?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> LieGrue,
>> >>>>> strub
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information
>> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source
>> >>>>> projects.however,
>> >>>>> we
>> >>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with "Grant
>> >>>>> license
>> >>>>> to ASF
>> >>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)"
would be
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> good
>> >>>>> idea (before we commit the final text).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> regards,gerhard
>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial brainstorming!
>> >>>>> regards,gerhard
>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <bart@kummelweb.nl>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts
on the
>> >>>>> wiki
>> >>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts from
my book,
>> >>>>> which
>> >>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven
>> >>>>> projects.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best regards,Bart
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming.
>> >>>>> regards,gerhard
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> thx for the hint mark!
>> >>>>> regards,gerhard
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> +1 for better community doku
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and a
few
>> >>>>> projects
>> >>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki to
the CMS
>> >>>>> (tool
>> >>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before
we put
>> >>>>> effort
>> >>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> LieGrue,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> strub
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [2]
>> >>>>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> hi @ all,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information
>> >>>>> about
>> >>>>> our community.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces
>> Project"
>> >>>>> section.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we should
also
>> >>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should
>> >>>>> start/continue
>> >>>>> with our new wiki [1].
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> regards,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> gerhard
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________
>> >>>>> Bart Kummel
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> ___________________________________________________________
>> >>> *Bart Kummel*
>> >>>
>> >>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>> >>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>> >>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>> >>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ___________________________________________________________
>> >> *Bart Kummel*
>> >>
>> >> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>> >> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>> >> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>> >> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > ___________________________________________________________
>> > *Bart Kummel*
>> >
>> > Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>> > Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>> > blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>> > <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jakob Korherr
>>
>> blog: http://www.jakobk.com
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
>> work: http://www.irian.at
>>
>


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