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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:16:13 +0100
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Subject: Re: html5 lib
From: Jakob Korherr <jakob.korherr@gmail.com>
To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
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Maybe MFHTML5 like we did in MyFaces commons (--> MFCOMMONS).

Regards,
Jakob

Am Donnerstag, 20. Januar 2011 schrieb Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.o=
rg>:
> the issue is, something like MYFACES-HTML5 does not work (because of -)
> :-)
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>> +1 for a new jira project
>> regards,
>> gerhard
>>
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>> 2011/1/20 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
>>>
>>> Question:
>>>
>>> Should we add a new JIRA project (MYFACESHTML5)
>>> Or is it enough to have a HTML5 component ?
>>>
>>> I personally don't mind having a new project for it..
>>>
>>> -M
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org=
>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Nope
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday, January 19, 2011, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr> wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> totally - let's create a jira instance for=C2=A0myfaces-html5 ?Do we=
 need
>>> >> voting for this?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,Ali
>>> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> For example, for the hx:video component there is a "fallback" facet.
>>> >> But I can't say we're able cope with this problem (yet). So far, I'v=
e
>>> >> experimented Html5, CSS and other Javascript APIs; created some comp=
onents,
>>> >> behaviors and etc.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Providing fallbacks automatically is not that easy and for some
>>> >> features, it is impossible. Of course, we would have allow users to =
plug in
>>> >> their fallbacks.That would be an important part of this project.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> How do others cope with this situation? Is there an established patt=
ern
>>> >> for this case? If so, then we should add it to our WIKI.There is a
>>> >> Javascript library called "Modernizr" [1] which can detect the suppo=
rt for
>>> >> features. AFAIK, people use that to use Html5 features or fallback t=
o old
>>> >> stuff.
>>> >>
>>> >> Furthermore, Html side of the Html5 (Html + JS APIs + CSS3) mostly
>>> >> designed in a way that old browsers will just ignore the component, =
but not
>>> >> it's children elements. So, that is another way of providing fallbac=
ks, as
>>> >> nested elements, since new browsers will consider the Html5 elements=
, but
>>> >> ignore it's non-applicable children.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> [1]=C2=A0https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr
>>> >> Greetings,Ali
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> Please allow me a question (I'm a complete noob on this topic), just
>>> >> for getting the 'big picture':
>>> >>
>>> >> The html5 components are obviously only for html-5 compatible browse=
rs.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is there a strategy to also serve older (xhtml-4 only) browsers? Or =
do
>>> >> we just show them a 'not available for your old browser' page in thi=
s case?
>>> >> How do others cope with this situation? Is there an established patt=
ern
>>> >> for this case? If so, then we should add it to our WIKI.
>>> >>
>>> >> LieGrue,
>>> >> strub
>>> >>
>>> >> --- On Tue, 1/18/11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> From: Matthias Wessendorf <--
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
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>

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