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From Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
Subject Re: html5 lib
Date Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:23:40 GMT
the issue is, something like MYFACES-HTML5 does not work (because of -)
:-)

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Gerhard <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for a new jira project
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> 2011/1/20 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
>>
>> Question:
>>
>> Should we add a new JIRA project (MYFACESHTML5)
>> Or is it enough to have a HTML5 component ?
>>
>> I personally don't mind having a new project for it..
>>
>> -M
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Nope
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, January 19, 2011, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> totally - let's create a jira instance for myfaces-html5 ?Do we need
>> >> voting for this?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,Ali
>> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >> For example, for the hx:video component there is a "fallback" facet.
>> >> But I can't say we're able cope with this problem (yet). So far, I've
>> >> experimented Html5, CSS and other Javascript APIs; created some components,
>> >> behaviors and etc.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Providing fallbacks automatically is not that easy and for some
>> >> features, it is impossible. Of course, we would have allow users to plug
in
>> >> their fallbacks.That would be an important part of this project.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> How do others cope with this situation? Is there an established pattern
>> >> for this case? If so, then we should add it to our WIKI.There is a
>> >> Javascript library called "Modernizr" [1] which can detect the support for
>> >> features. AFAIK, people use that to use Html5 features or fallback to old
>> >> stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Furthermore, Html side of the Html5 (Html + JS APIs + CSS3) mostly
>> >> designed in a way that old browsers will just ignore the component, but
not
>> >> it's children elements. So, that is another way of providing fallbacks,
as
>> >> nested elements, since new browsers will consider the Html5 elements, but
>> >> ignore it's non-applicable children.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr
>> >> Greetings,Ali
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> Please allow me a question (I'm a complete noob on this topic), just
>> >> for getting the 'big picture':
>> >>
>> >> The html5 components are obviously only for html-5 compatible browsers.
>> >>
>> >> Is there a strategy to also serve older (xhtml-4 only) browsers? Or do
>> >> we just show them a 'not available for your old browser' page in this case?
>> >> How do others cope with this situation? Is there an established pattern
>> >> for this case? If so, then we should add it to our WIKI.
>> >>
>> >> LieGrue,
>> >> strub
>> >>
>> >> --- On Tue, 1/18/11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> From: Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
>> >>> Subject: Re: html5 lib
>> >>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>> >>> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 12:47 PM
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> totally - let's create a jira instance for
>> >>>
>> >>> myfaces-html5 ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Hudson builds can done, once the final location has been
>> >>> discussed.
>> >>>
>> >>> -M
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> > I don't have any suggestions about the location, but I
>> >>> have a request
>> >>> > related to this context. To ease the contribution and
>> >>> use of other people, I
>> >>> > think a Hudson build and JIRA space would be useful.
>> >>> > What do you think about that?
>> >>> > Greetings,
>> >>> > Ali
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Jakob Korherr
>> >>> > <jakob.korherr@gmail.com>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Hi,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> IMO we should add it as a new MyFaces component
>> >>> lib (of course, only
>> >>> >> after a successful vote).
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Regards,
>> >>> >> Jakob
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 2011/1/18 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
>> >>> >> > hi,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > where should we place the html5 stuff, that
>> >>> Ali did during summer of
>> >>> >> > code?
>> >>> >> > Like what folder etc ?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > It's time to get a first alpha out.. and the
>> >>> location should be a
>> >>> >> > stopper
>> >>> >> > (release often - release early)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > -M
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > --
>> >>> >> > Matthias Wessendorf
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> >>> >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> >>> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Jakob Korherr
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com
>> >>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
>> >>> >> work: http://www.irian.at
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
>> >>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Matthias Wessendorf
>> >>>
>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
>> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
>> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matthias Wessendorf
>> >
>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
>



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Matthias Wessendorf

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