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From Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr>
Subject Re: html5 lib
Date Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:39:09 GMT
Hi,

totally - let's create a jira instance for myfaces-html5 ?

Do we need voting for this?

Cheers,
Ali

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For example, for the hx:video component there is a "fallback" facet. But I
> can't say we're able cope with this problem (yet). So far, I've experimented
> Html5, CSS and other Javascript APIs; created some components, behaviors and
> etc.
>
> Providing fallbacks automatically is not that easy and for some features,
> it is impossible. Of course, we would have allow users to plug in their
> fallbacks.
> That would be an important part of this project.
>
> How do others cope with this situation? Is there an established pattern for
>> this case? If so, then we should add it to our WIKI.
>
> There is a Javascript library called "Modernizr" [1] which can detect the
> support for features. AFAIK, people use that to use Html5 features or
> fallback to old stuff.
> Furthermore, Html side of the Html5 (Html + JS APIs + CSS3) mostly designed
> in a way that old browsers will just ignore the component, but not it's
> children elements. So, that is another way of providing fallbacks, as nested
> elements, since new browsers will consider the Html5 elements, but ignore
> it's non-applicable children.
>
> [1] https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr
>
> Greetings,
> Ali
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
>> Please allow me a question (I'm a complete noob on this topic), just for
>> getting the 'big picture':
>>
>> The html5 components are obviously only for html-5 compatible browsers.
>>
>> Is there a strategy to also serve older (xhtml-4 only) browsers? Or do we
>> just show them a 'not available for your old browser' page in this case?
>> How do others cope with this situation? Is there an established pattern
>> for this case? If so, then we should add it to our WIKI.
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> --- On Tue, 1/18/11, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
>> > Subject: Re: html5 lib
>> > To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>> > Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 12:47 PM
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > totally - let's create a jira instance for
>> >
>> > myfaces-html5 ?
>> >
>> > Hudson builds can done, once the final location has been
>> > discussed.
>> >
>> > -M
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Ali Ok <aliok@aliok.com.tr>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > I don't have any suggestions about the location, but I
>> > have a request
>> > > related to this context. To ease the contribution and
>> > use of other people, I
>> > > think a Hudson build and JIRA space would be useful.
>> > > What do you think about that?
>> > > Greetings,
>> > > Ali
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Jakob Korherr <
>> jakob.korherr@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> IMO we should add it as a new MyFaces component
>> > lib (of course, only
>> > >> after a successful vote).
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards,
>> > >> Jakob
>> > >>
>> > >> 2011/1/18 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
>> > >> > hi,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > where should we place the html5 stuff, that
>> > Ali did during summer of
>> > >> > code?
>> > >> > Like what folder etc ?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > It's time to get a first alpha out.. and the
>> > location should be a
>> > >> > stopper
>> > >> > (release often - release early)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > -M
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Matthias Wessendorf
>> > >> >
>> > >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> > >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> > >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Jakob Korherr
>> > >>
>> > >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com
>> > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
>> > >> work: http://www.irian.at
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
>> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matthias Wessendorf
>> >
>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
>
>


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