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From Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
Subject Re: MyFaces shipping with JBoss AS6?
Date Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:12:49 GMT
Somehow I think there was already work/discussion about it, based on a
Tomcat interface.
It for sure does bring back some fragile memory. Let me think...

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> Well, looking at the RI is for sure not OK.
>
> I didn't see a problem with the previous provided links (the JBoss
> code), however
> I have not opened any of the provided links yet.
>
> -Matthias
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:54 PM,  <ssilvert@redhat.com> wrote:
>> That's OK.  I guess I can do the SPI implementations on my end but it might
>> not make it into JBoss AS6 GA. Let's concentrate on the MyFaces SPI's for
>> now.  How does MyFaces handle the SPI's like Mojarra has?  I'm sure it's OK
>> to look at Mojarra code since it's GPL2, right?  If not, you can look at
>> JavaDoc.  We need something similar to:
>>
>> com.sun.faces.spi.InjectionProvider
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net/source/browse/mojarra/trunk/jsf-ri/src/main/java/com/sun/faces/spi/InjectionProvider.java
>>
>> com.sun.faces.spi.AnnotationProvider
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net/source/browse/mojarra/trunk/jsf-ri/src/main/java/com/sun/faces/spi/AnnotationProvider.java
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> Quoting Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
>>
>>> At Apache we can not have code that contains (L)GPL code; or depends on
>>> it.
>>>
>>> We had discussion(s) about this in the past. The below link contains
>>>  references
>>> to other (Apache) documents:
>>>
>>> http://markmail.org/message/qtc4g6vsracgzbok
>>>
>>> -Matthias
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel
>>> <jankeesvanandel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Great news! It would be very nice if JBoss ships with MyFaces 2. This
>>>> also
>>>> opens up possibilities to do some enhancements to increase developer
>>>> productivity in JBoss, like better resource reloading and so on. Or doing
>>>> some things more efficient by plugging into the JBoss infrastructure.
>>>> Just
>>>> thinking out loud... :)
>>>>
>>>> One thing about the JBoss SVN link Stan sent. I took a quick peek at the
>>>> license header in a Java file and saw that it's LGPL licensed. AFAIK,
>>>> this
>>>> is not compatible with ASL, so I suggest to not look at the code while
>>>> implementing the stuff Stan asked for.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jan-Kees
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/8/5 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Stan,
>>>>>
>>>>> welcome back. We do understand that you can not make any promise on that
>>>>> topic.
>>>>> The fact that some folks at JBoss are thinking about shipping MyFaces
>>>>> (as an alternative option)
>>>>> is a good news for this entire community here. Especially it is a
>>>>> great motivation for the
>>>>> folks that did the main work on ensuring Apache MyFaces 2.x is a great
>>>>> success.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the missing pieces: I am sure that there will be some interested in
>>>>> working on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>> PMC Chair Apache MyFaces
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:42 PM,  <ssilvert@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi guys,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Would you like to see MyFaces Core ship with JBoss AS6?  If so,
read
>>>>> > on.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you've been around MyFaces awhile, you probably remember that
>>>>> > JBoass
>>>>> > AS
>>>>> > used to ship with MyFaces instead of Mojarra.  It was regrettable,
but
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > the time Mojarra was far ahead spec-wise and the powers that be
>>>>> > decided
>>>>> > my
>>>>> > time would be better spent integrating Mojarra instead of improving
>>>>> > MyFaces.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > However, with JBoss AS6 M4, this is no longer an "either or"
>>>>> > proposition.
>>>>> >  Both MyFaces and Mojarra can live side-by-side.  The application
can
>>>>> > decide
>>>>> > which implementation to use:
>>>>> > http://community.jboss.org/wiki/JSFonJBossAS6
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What's more, changing the default JSF implementation for AS6 is
just a
>>>>> > matter of changing the defaultJSFConfig property in an XML file.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I've talked internally at JBoss about adding MyFaces to the JBoss
AS
>>>>> > community distribution.  Some were for it, and some were very,
very
>>>>> > for
>>>>> > it.
>>>>> >  Nobody so far is against it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The good part is that I don't think it's a lot of work.  It's probably
>>>>> > just
>>>>> > three or four classes that implement SPI's that I'm guessing MyFaces
>>>>> > already
>>>>> > has.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So this is where the MyFaces Dev group comes in.  MyFaces Core
2.0
>>>>> > will
>>>>> > run
>>>>> > OK on JBoss AS6 right now.  However, there is some integration
work
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > needed for full JEE5 and JEE6 compliance.  We need:
>>>>> > * An injection provider SPI similar to Mojarra's
>>>>> > com.sun.faces.spi.InjectionProvider.
>>>>> > * The JBoss/MyFaces implementation of the SPI.  I expect this will
be
>>>>> > very
>>>>> > similar to
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > org.jboss.web.jsf.integration.injection.JBossDelegatingInjectionProvider.
>>>>> > * An AnnotationProvider SPI similar to Mojarra's
>>>>> > com.sun.faces.spi.AnnotationProvider.
>>>>> > * A JBoss/MyFaces implementation of the SPI similar to
>>>>> > org.jboss.web.jsf.integration.config.JBossAnnotationProvider.
>>>>> > * A ServletContextListener class to call for initialization.  I
expect
>>>>> > this
>>>>> > will extend from MyFacesServletContextListener and be very similar
to
>>>>> > org.jboss.web.jsf.integration.config.JBossMojarra20ConfigureListener.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If MyFaces Dev decides to take this on, then the code will probably
>>>>> > live
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > Apache and I'll bring it into JBoss AS using Maven.  I don't have
time
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > write and maintain the code myself but I'm happy to help out with
>>>>> > guidance
>>>>> > and to do some refactoring of my code to make this easier.  BTW,
the
>>>>> > JBoss/Mojarra integration code lives here:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >   http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/projects/jboss-jsf-int/trunk/jboss-faces/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Lastly, let me say that I can't make hard promises right now.  I
don't
>>>>> > know
>>>>> > if someone at JBoss/RedHat will come along and nix the idea.  However,
>>>>> > even
>>>>> > if we can't ship MyFaces you will have all the integration points
>>>>> > ready
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > have an easy way to "drop in" MyFaces whenever you want to use it
with
>>>>> > JBoss
>>>>> > AS.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > WDYT??
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>
>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
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>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>
>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>
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> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
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>



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