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From Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Shale Annotations
Date Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:21:10 GMT
I personally don't think it's worth it. If someone wants to use
annotations, I usually point them to a third party library (like Seam
or Orchestra) or tell them to be patient and wait for JSF 2.
Especially since it should be possible to run JSF 2 on current web
containers like Tomcat 6,  my idea is that migration goes faster and
becomes easier than with Java EE 5.

Regards,
Jan-Kees


2009/7/8 Mario Ivankovits <mario@ops.co.at>:
> Hmmm … it might be worth looking at using Orchestra without Spring. Guice is
> not an option for your clients either, is it?
>
>
>
> If you do not use Spring, you also do not use its persistence capabilities
> ;-) So then, using a CGLIB based (or whatever enhancer lib) approach which
> simply enhances the beans in a way which is required by Orchestra might be
> enough.
>
>
>
> Sure, we can not yet use the faces-config.xml to configure the managed beans
> for Orchestra.
>
> But probably we can introduce something like a orchestra-config.xml for the
> scope and managed bean configuration.
>
>
>
> @community: What do you think? Is it worth it?
>
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Mario
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: Kito Mann [mailto:kito.mann@virtua.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 07. Juli 2009 23:45
> An: MyFaces Development
> Betreff: Re: Shale Annotations
>
>
>
> The problem with using Orchestra is that it requires Spring, which is an
> extra "framework" that some organizations don't necessarily need. Although
> JSF managed beans aren't that great, sometimes they're a better choice than
> integrating Spring into the project.
> ---
> Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> http://twitter.com/kito99  http://twitter.com/jsfcentral
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>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Bruno Aranda <brunoaranda@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> What about just using MyFaces Orchestra? It does many of the thing the
> shale tiger extensions used to do (and even includes lots of useful
> features). You have the Orchestra view controller annotations and if
> you want more annotations, you can use the Spring ones to register
> backing beans and so on...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruno
>
> 2009/7/7 Kito Mann <kito.mann@virtua.com>:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I know that MyFaces is in the process of swallowing Shale Test. What do
>> you
>> guys think about swallowing Shale Annotations, too? I know it's a dead-end
>> add-on considering JSF 2, but I run into enough clients that aren't going
>> to
>> be using JSF 2 for a loooong time, and could use annotation support today.
>> Given Shale's "retired" status, they're never going to touch it.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> ---
>> Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
>> http://twitter.com/kito99  http://twitter.com/jsfcentral
>> http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
>> http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
>> +1 203-404-4848 x3
>>
>
>

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