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From Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces
Date Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:09:52 GMT
here [1] you go! :)

regards,
gerhard

[1]
http://www.nabble.com/-VOTE--jul-instead-of-commons-logging-td23948865.html



2009/6/9 Mario Ivankovits <mario@ops.co.at>

>  Start voting? ;-)
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> *From:* Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petracek@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:45 AM
> *To:* MyFaces Development
> *Subject:* Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces
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> yes the -1 vote would be a veto in view of slf4j
> -> no agreement -> we would vote about jul.
>
> or as mario suggested - let's start voting about jul.
>
> @mario:
> yes - i'll wait until monday for sure. and we should vote a bit longer than
> usual - due to holidays (+ it's an important topic for all myfaces projects)
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
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>  2009/6/6 Ganesh <ganesh@j4fry.org>
>
> Hi,
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> > we could also vote first about slf4j and everybody who prefers jul should
> vote -1
> > if we don't have a majority for slf4j, we have to vote about jul.
> > is that ok for everybody?
>
> From http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html my understanding of a -1
> vote is different from this.
>
> << Vetos
>
> A code-modification proposal may be stopped dead in its tracks by a -1 vote
> by a qualified voter. This constitutes a veto, and it cannot be overruled
> nor overridden by anyone. Vetos stand until and unless withdrawn by their
> casters.
>
> To prevent vetos from being used capriciously, they must be accompanied by
> a technical justification showing why the change is bad (opens a security
> exposure, negatively affects performance, etc.). A veto without a
> justification is invalid and has no weight. >>
>
> Better use the fraction system for voting on the logging system:
>
>   * +0: 'I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okey with this.'
>   * -0: 'I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.'
>   * -0.5: 'I don't like this idea, but I can't find any rational
> justification for my feelings.'
>   * ++1: 'Wow! I like this! Let's do it!'
>   * -0.9: 'I really don't like this, but I'm not going to stand in the way
> if everyone else wants to go ahead with it.'
>   * +0.9: 'This is a cool idea and i like it, but I don't have time/the
> skills necessary to help out.'
>
> Best regards,
> Ganesh
>
>
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