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From Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: slf4j and myfaces
Date Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:03:53 GMT
@matthias:
yes - that's the reason for my comment: "...external logging framework..."

@udo:
imo we should discuss the logging topic before we have a release which
already uses slf4j - especially the suggestion of mario sounds interesting.

regards,
gerhard

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2009/6/5 Mario Ivankovits <mario@ops.co.at>

>  Hi!
>
>
>
> Could one please eloberate a little bit more in detail what the pros are of
> slf4j?
>
>
>
> Notice, I switched to it in our company project - but always using the
> commons-logging api and just used the slf4j-over-cl wrapper. This is
> something wich is possible for each and ever user of myfaces already, just
> by adjusting the depencendcies correctly.
>
>
>
> Lately I even switched to my own logging wrapper, but this is another
> story. In the end, everything still uses the cl API which is proven to work
> fine. (I created the org.apache.commons.logging package structure with my
> own classes - which for sure is not possible for myfaces!).
>
>
>
>
>
> I still think, that using the cl api is the best we can do for our users.
> If they then use cl as implementation - and if this is considered "good" -
> is another story, but nothing WE should anticipate.
>
> As far as I can say the cl api is rock solid, just the class-loader stuff
> is a pain. But (again AFAIK), slf4j does not solve it, it just does not deal
> with it.
>
>
>
> Before we start using any other logging api I'd suggest to build our own
> thin myfaces-logging wrapper where one then can easily plug in log4j, cl,
> jul (java utils ogging) or whatever - we do not even have to provide any
> other impl than for jul.
>
> As a plus, this then will remove a dependency - a dependency to any logging
> framework - which - in terms of dependencies can be considered as a "good"
> thing, no?
>
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Mario
>
>
>
> *Von:* Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petracek@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 05. Juni 2009 17:18
> *An:* MyFaces Development
> *Betreff:* slf4j and myfaces
>
>
>
> hello all,
>
> again the logging-framework topic :)
> there were several discussions about it and i'm not aware of an agreement.
>
> udo wrote [1]:
> >replace commons-logging with slf4j
>
> as i know we "agreed" on using one logging framework dependency for all
> myfaces projects.
> if i remember correctly, most of us prefer slf4j.
>
> -> i suggest to vote about using slf4j in all myfaces projects.
> (at least if a project is using an external logging framework.)
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> [1] http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Trinidad-vs-Tobago-p23884581.html
>

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