Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 71644 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2009 16:10:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 2009 16:10:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 88813 invoked by uid 500); 20 Apr 2009 16:10:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@myfaces.apache.org Received: (qmail 88718 invoked by uid 500); 20 Apr 2009 16:10:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@myfaces.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "MyFaces Development" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@myfaces.apache.org Received: (qmail 88710 invoked by uid 99); 20 Apr 2009 16:10:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:10:10 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of arash.rajaeeyan@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.113 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.221.113] (HELO mail-qy0-f113.google.com) (209.85.221.113) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:10:03 +0000 Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so48016qyk.32 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jy9JUS8hs7GiffBh0RJ16Q9CQm5ACWhzH25EFKRnwJM=; b=i4BZWsEzwdRqAy88nCJlkFacbAbpNshypl0fZZHaM5Zh6u+n9OMoIWKdqrY0eH55dT YBMbkVofGzlsIvbAXPua1dJpo6Ad9WP3NICSCvCjobW66j2mMxlHb0uAMawubqqXOAx4 2532cDY6h/eMPhsbjV61bOhqHwICF6qQAb/s8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Nym1Xd0a0I01kjswr6cJjguZzBt9kRr38V3iKPrMJ+f+75WnHHVSVEzOlkGn+M/XgH Uh6G4bbxfL6CWUjepu27iT8RJQDZWH4idQCc6Z+8UkO8AgozkxsiIl1a0ztudGj3pOPG hG87M4CTJ51q/aMPJiCLfW54o3s33/oTIWlEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.204 with SMTP id e12mr3373164ibd.50.1240243782349; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:09:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9F94D96E-412E-4CF3-BE6D-682E62E149EE@gmail.com> References: <70a0d9080904200825o6daff5adr3104a25f0d8d4949@mail.gmail.com> <9F94D96E-412E-4CF3-BE6D-682E62E149EE@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:09:42 -0700 Message-ID: <70a0d9080904200909h659937b4ke8cab25dde359588@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Oracle buys Sun From: Arash Rajaeeyan To: MyFaces Development Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022150483c314f2940467fec26a X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --0022150483c314f2940467fec26a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oracle is a bigger competitor for IBM, has a more aggressive strategy and much less committed to open source,for example they have promised to open source Oracle ADF RC for nearly two years, (Apache RCF) but you can't see any progress. now Oracle will have the most complete software stack even more complete than Microsoft! although MySQL was very popular but it was not a direct competitor of DB2 (But Oracle is) and Solaris and AIX had their own customers, Sparc and Power platform had their own market share two, but now with popularity of Oracle DB, Oracle can boost Sparc and Solaris sale, and get more market share from IBM. in software market because of Strong position of Oracle, they may need less commitment to open source and open standards. cheers Arash On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Alan Hancock wrote: > What would IBM move to? Why would Java be any different with Oracle from > IBM's perspective? > > > -Alan via iPhone > > On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Arash Rajaeeyan > wrote: > > I may be a little bad for some sun products, but in whole it would be great > for java vs .net platformOracle is second largest software vendor. > I am afraid this may cause other companies like IBM to move away from Java > platform > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Werner Punz < > werner.punz@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello everyone I just read at the german Heise site that Oracle has bought >> Sun for 7.4 billion dollars. >> >> I wonder what the implications in the long run will be. >> >> My personal thought is that it might finally become possible that the RI >> and MyFaces can merge... >> >> Java: Probably business as usual but maybe it will become more open! >> >> OpenOffice will probably be maintained with the business as usual. >> >> Same goes for OpenSolaris/Solaris >> >> But I see a rather black future for Netbeans and MySQL... >> (I would be sad if Netbeans would go away the IDE is simply excellent) >> >> Also the proposed IceFaces merger as base for a future JSF-Sun component >> set might be now dead in the light of Oracle having already something in >> their portfolio! >> >> As for the Sun hardware division that is a big question, but I personally >> guess Oracle will try to keep it alive and make it a cash cow again! >> >> > > > -- > Arash Rajaeeyan > > -- Arash Rajaeeyan --0022150483c314f2940467fec26a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oracle is a bigger competitor for IBM, has a more aggressive strategy and m= uch less committed to open source,
for example they have promised to op= en source Oracle ADF RC for nearly two years, (Apache RCF) but you can'= t see any progress.
now Oracle will have the most complete software stack even more comple= te than Microsoft!
although MySQL was very popular but it was not= a direct competitor of DB2 (But Oracle is)
and Solaris and AIX h= ad their own customers, Sparc and Power platform had their own market share= two,
but now with popularity of Oracle DB, Oracle can boost Sparc and Solar= is sale, and get more market share from IBM.
in software market b= ecause of Strong position of Oracle, they may need less commitment to open = source and open standards.
cheers
Arash=C2=A0

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Alan Hancock <suddenrush9595@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
What would IB= M move to? Why would =C2=A0Java be any different with Oracle from
=C2=A0IBM's perspective? =C2=A0


-Alan via=C2=A0iPhone


On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM= , Arash Rajaeeyan <arash.rajaeeyan@gmail.com> wrote:

I may be a little bad f= or some sun products, but in whole it would be great for java vs .net platf= orm
Oracle is second largest software vendor.
I am afraid thi= s may cause other companies like IBM to move away from Java platform

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Werner= Punz <= werner.punz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone I just read at the german Heise site that Oracle has bought = Sun for 7.4 billion dollars.

I wonder what the implications in the long run will be.

My personal thought is that it might finally become possible that the RI an= d MyFaces can merge...

Java: Probably business as usual but maybe it will become more open!

OpenOffice will probably be maintained with the business as usual.

Same goes for OpenSolaris/Solaris

But I see a rather black future for Netbeans and MySQL...
(I would be sad if Netbeans would go away the IDE is simply excellent)

Also the proposed IceFaces merger as base for a future JSF-Sun component se= t might be now dead in the light of Oracle having already something in thei= r portfolio!

As for the Sun hardware division that is a big question, but I personally g= uess Oracle will try to keep it alive and make it a cash cow again!




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Arash Rajaeeyan



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Arash Rajaeeyan
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