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From "Matthias Wessendorf" <mat...@apache.org>
Subject Re: JSF2.0 implementation
Date Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:13:49 GMT
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Simon Kitching <skitching@apache.org> wrote:
> But that thread is from Jun 04 - that is very nearly 3 months ago. Since
> then, nothing as far as I know.

ok, perhaps just a "hello, I have done some development on my machine,
is the myfaces community still willing to provide a JSF 2.0
implementation".
That would have been enough, IMO.

-Matthias

>
> Zubin Wadia schrieb:
>>
>> Simon,
>>
>> You can do a search for Subject = '[OT] JSF 2.0' on the Dev list.
>>
>> I believe that discussion, begun by MW turned into a discussion about
>> branch creation... then a couple of +1s followed.... and I assume that's
>> where the branch was born.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Zubin.
>>
>> On 8/28/08, *Simon Kitching* <skitching@apache.org
>> <mailto:skitching@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>    I see from the commit list that a new JSF2.0 branch has been created.
>>
>>    I don't remember seeing *any* kind of discussion or even
>>    announcement about this. While I am happy to see JSF2.0 work going
>>    on, this kind of approach does not seem to be at all in the
>>    "community" spirit. IMO, major events like this should be
>>    discussed beforehand.
>>
>>    One issue, for example, is that the core-1.2 stuff is currently
>>    half-way-converted from the trinidad plugins to the
>>    myfaces-builder-plugin. So now it is branched, any changes need to
>>    be applied in two places.
>>
>>    In addition, a large amount of code has just been committed by
>>    someone (slessard) who is not a particularly regular contributor
>>    to myfaces. Where did this code come from? Do we need a code grant
>>    for it? Note that when code is developed iteratively on the dev
>>    list then there is no need for a grant. But a sudden code dump is
>>    different, even when contributed by someone who has signed a CLA.
>>
>>    And with 3 branches to now maintain, we need to discuss whether
>>    and when we phase out maintenance of the jsf-1.1 branch. Currently
>>    when users provide patches in jira, they almost always provide a
>>    patch against only one version and the committer ports it, which
>>    does increase the load on existing committers. When do we stop
>>    asking committers to do this when patching bugs?
>>
>>    To repeat, I'm *happy* that jsf2.0 implementation is in progress,
>>    and appreciate people contributing time to write an
>>    ASF-2.0-licensed implementation. But it is a  standard saying at
>>    Apache that "community is more important than code", and the
>>    "community" aspect here seems to have been rather neglected...
>>
>>    Regards,
>>    Simon
>>
>>
>
>



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