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From "Gerhard Petracek" <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] sev-en as a new myfaces sub-project
Date Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:28:38 GMT
a short addition that there is no misunderstanding:

!?! = i'm not completely sure if we should close the vote now - in my
opinion we are finished.

regards,
gerhard



2008/4/26 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>:

> hello matthias,
>
> yes - i think the vote is finished!?!
> a new name is the next step (it was just a hint).
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
>
> 2008/4/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
>
> > ok,
> > I think this all is very confusing now
> > (due to mixing name and acceptance votes).
> >
> > So, I am +1 on getting the project to commons and I don't care about
> > the name :-)
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Gerhard Petracek
> > <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > hello matthias,
> > >
> > > due to the fact that most voted for commons-[new name] let's
> > start/reanimate
> > > the commons module itself.
> > > we will see if it will work for sev-en or not.
> > >
> > > so i would suggest to finish the vote.
> > >  the result (without counting the single votes): let's start sev-en as
> > > commons-[new name]
> > >
> > > however, currently we are thinking about a new name [1].
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > gerhard
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.nabble.com/new-name-for-sev-en-to16866739.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/4/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > @commons-[new name]:
> > > > > i had some main doubts.
> > > > > matthias and i talked about them and after our talk i've got a
> > better
> > > > > impression.
> > > > >
> > > > >  however, before i'll agree i would like to see clarifications and
> > some
> > > > > improvements of the current situation of the commons module.
> > > >
> > > > so? what's the problem with the commons module?
> > > >
> > > > -M
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > gerhard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2008/4/22 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sure, that's okay for the location of  seven.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > most committers voted for that ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My other concern is how sev-en will play with jsr 303.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMO it should be possible to get that working (as an impl?)
as
> > well
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -M
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cagatay
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Scott O'Bryan <
> > darkarena@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cagatay,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What about the commons project. MyFaces Commons Utils
and
> > MyFaces
> > > > > Commons
> > > > > > > Configurators don't render anyting.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cagatay Civici wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My mind hasn't changed since the last discussion
so it's
> > still
> > > -1
> > > > > for a
> > > > > > > stand-alone project because in my opinion every goodie,
> > extension
> > > > > etc...)
> > > > > > > that doesn't render anything should join orchestra.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We might end up with a subproject hell that's
hard to
> > maintain
> > > if we
> > > > > > > create a subproject for each jsf extension.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Orchestra core15 module is a nice place for sev-en.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cagatay
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Werner Punz
> > > <werner.punz@gmail.com
> > > > > > > <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >    Ok Gerhard my apologies then if all of this
is
> > discussed out
> > > > > > > > >    then a clear +1
> > > > > > > > >    from my side.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >    Werner
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >    Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >        hello werner,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >        thank you for your additional hint.
> > > > > > > > >        however, we already discussed this topic
and there
> > are
> > > > > several
> > > > > > > > >        arguments against the integration.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >        this vote is just about sev-en as a stand-alone
> > > sub-project
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >        myfaces.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >        (aspect-el is a different topic. so let's
have a
> > > separated
> > > > > vote.)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >        regards,
> > > > > > > > >        gerhard
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >        2008/4/20, Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >        <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >        <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com>>>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >           +1 but one addition
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >           since we already have an extension
api project
> > > > > > > > >           wouldnt it be better to be integrated
into
> > orchestra
> > > > > > > > >           I think since orchestra is not a scope
project
> > > although
> > > > > > > > >           its main area is scoping that sev-en
should
> > belong in
> > > > > there.
> > > > > > > > >           Think about that, I think orchestra
might be the
> > > perfect
> > > > > place
> > > > > > > > >           for things like sev-en and/or aspect-el
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >           Werner
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >           Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >               hello,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >               as requested i published the source
code of
> > the
> > > sev-en
> > > > > > > > >        preview
> > > > > > > > >               some days ago (details at: [1]).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >               we discussed whether or not we
should start
> > a new
> > > > > myfaces
> > > > > > > > >               sub-project.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >               so let's vote!
> > > > > > > > >               (there will be a separated discussion
+ vote
> > > > > concerning
> > > > > > > > >        the name.)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >               [ ] +1 for: sev-en should become
a myfaces
> > > sub-project
> > > > > > > > >               [ ] +0
> > > > > > > > >               [ ] -1 for: sev-en shouldn't become
a
> > myfaces
> > > > > sub-project
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >               regards,
> > > > > > > > >               gerhard
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >               [1]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > http://www.nabble.com/-proposal--jsf-validation-with-annotations-to16483341.html#a16747103
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > further stuff:
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> > > > > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
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