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From "Andrew Robinson (JIRA)" <...@myfaces.apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (TRINIDAD-845) choice between IFrame-PPR or XHR should be possible
Date Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:14:34 GMT

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Andrew Robinson commented on TRINIDAD-845:
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Not to be a stick in the mud, but IE6 is no longer supported. Microsoft ended all service
pack support for it on 10-Oct-2006. See here:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/LifeSupSps

With this in mind, I do not think that it is a valid bug to support this browser, especially
when PPR works on IE6 in its default configuration. 

If people are willing to create a branch off of the trunk to support this back port, I have
no issue with it, but I disagreed that the IFRAME should be supported in the trunk (except
for file uploads where it is the only solution since AJAX does not support that feature yet).

I especially don't think it should be supported in the trunk as it is a potentially very dangerous
security hole.

> choice between IFrame-PPR or  XHR should be possible
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TRINIDAD-845
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-845
>             Project: MyFaces Trinidad
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 1.2.2-core
>            Reporter: Jan Görß
>
> It should be possible to change the interactive server communication between IFrame-PPR
and XHR.
> Our customers are banking houses and they define the security constrains  (IE5.5+ with
deactived ActiveX).
> IE 5.5  - 6 are the problem.
> IE 7 has a possibility to run XHR without ActiveX.
> At the beginning of our projects we decide to take Trinidad because of it's IFrame-PPR
solution and our WebApps must run without AJAX.
> I think other users of trinidad have the same problem also.
> Taken from users@myfaces.apache.org
> Hi,
> I know all the "issues" with not able to use IE w/ activated ActiveX.
> Sure, a solution is possible, but it is (as always) a matter of time.
> Are you willing to help out on this?
> I'll also check our internal requirements, since we have also customers, that may "upgrade"
> to Trinidad, coming from ADF Faces 10.x.
> Can you file an issue in our jira w/ some details, that we don't forget it?
> Thx,
> Matthias
> On Nov 28, 2007 1:38 PM, Goerss, Jan <jan.goerss@hypoport.de> wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that our customers are banking houses.
> > They define the security constrains (IE5.5+ with deactivated ActiveX).
> >
> > We use Trinidad 1.2.1 and we can't switch to latest version of Trinidad with AJAX.
> >
> > I hope, a fallback option is possible, otherwise we can't use the latest version
of Trinidad and our project can work with Trinidad version 1.2.1 only.
> > The problems are with this constrain:
> >   - we get no bugfixing more
> >   - we can't use new components and features (new releases)
> >   - we can't use new trinidad development
> >
> >
> > I hope a solution is possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: mwessendorf@gmail.com [mailto:mwessendorf@gmail.com] Im Auftrag 
> > von Matthias Wessendorf
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 11:04
> > An: MyFaces Discussion
> > Betreff: Re: Trinidad Ajax
> >
> >
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > yes, we switched to XHR with the release of 1.0.2 (and 1.2.2).
> > There is no way to use IFrame instead of XHR.
> >
> > This will remain, because Ajax is pretty common these days and other 
> > JSF-libs have that as well.
> >
> > Providing an option to "fallback" might be possible, but not sure if 
> > that will be done.
> >
> > Is "IE 5.5" really still supported by M$?
> > If not, I'd strongly recommend to kick that guy out.
> > Sure... only the IE7 doesn't require ActiveX for XHR, but IE does.
> >
> > I am not aware of a solution for that.
> >
> > Do you have any ideas ?
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> > On Nov 28, 2007 10:48 AM, Goerss, Jan <jan.goerss@hypoport.de> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > we noticed that MyFaces Trinidad is changing the PPR mechanism 
> > > towards real AJAX and the XmlHttpRequest object.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We are using Trinidad is the finance sector. There it is normal that 
> > > the clients use the Internet Explorer with deactivated ActiveX.
> > >
> > > Furthermore they use not the newest browsers, so we although need to 
> > > support at least IE 5.5+.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At the beginning of our project we decide to take Trinidad because 
> > > of it's IFrame-PPR solution.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems as if it is not possible to choose between the two modes: 
> > > PPR or AJAX.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Will this remain? If so why? Otherwise, we think that a lot of 
> > > Trinidad library users will encounter problems with their clientsJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> >
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> further stuff:
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org

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