Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 48209 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2007 16:03:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 2007 16:03:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8969 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2007 16:02:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@myfaces.apache.org Received: (qmail 8938 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2007 16:02:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@myfaces.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "MyFaces Development" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@myfaces.apache.org Received: (qmail 8922 invoked by uid 99); 6 Dec 2007 16:02:51 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:02:51 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of mwessendorf@gmail.com designates 209.85.146.178 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.146.178] (HELO wa-out-1112.google.com) (209.85.146.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:02:27 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so695665waf for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:02:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=hqnr+aDWtyqAJXdLQ5+/fETKg0nppaY2NtzkKHKoHTs=; b=SdLrroypNguSxlK2sDuIyKfpzfgrAiuunQApStLeAjSrt2+V4pIy8jJePadR6qHSE+Hw4gFdRloVJctxub7zqW+GneezJszDSaGrhv0eFYMhrIJ4q9mm0K7GcBQk+h2dKcUcyXqr146rHdCTIeuOixCpNbOFEN5o47aBUI1WmUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=SsCI9opkGfoPpZtYMu9AS2eqN/wl7f0DW8bM1YMCh5babuqzECyoiLnfWIX+VfQURHFVJ1eC1IJG6DVUV8qbJOEm9ClVNlwc7DXhAPn8Nx5NRjtnWDJ7o9KAgzHWnu4Gd2XHHyJCB2dyGrGaTxelsJ56nAgo4UGh8Wecw0vIO6o= Received: by 10.114.37.1 with SMTP id k1mr1993037wak.1196956949655; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.54.11 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:02:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <71235db40712060802l7d800125n63a37cc234970bce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:02:29 +0100 From: "Matthias Wessendorf" Sender: mwessendorf@gmail.com To: "MyFaces Development" , kmann@virtua.com Subject: Re: Merging Shale into MyFaces In-Reply-To: <082401c8381f$e1143a40$a33caec0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3275925053.15259148@smtp.a1.net> <5a99335f0710240015w6892fd4ape11dbf6c69838fe9@mail.gmail.com> <71235db40712052334j1f19e66bja117d4bc102d4662@mail.gmail.com> <71235db40712060033k3d3be1a2ybf204ffc30bbb74a@mail.gmail.com> <47580E20.2050003@apache.org> <082401c8381f$e1143a40$a33caec0$@com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 94d7f36815cc968e X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Dec 6, 2007 4:50 PM, Kito D. Mann wrote: > Paul, > > That's good to hear. > > There's a lot more value that just the testing framework FWIW. I think we've > discussed this already. ya, we did > > Honestly, I think the best thing to do is let Shale continue to exist for > the time being and move relevant portions into MyFaces, either as separate > subprojects (such as test and dialog) or pieces of other projects. > Annotations and Remoting could be part of Tomahawk or common, and the > ViewController could be part of Orchestra. I summarized today the same bits, makes sense to me. I'd prefer to see Orchestra's ViewController the one we use :) > > (Not sure about the Tiles integration stuff.) we don't need that > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Spencer [mailto:paulsp@apache.org] > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:59 AM > > To: MyFaces Development > > Subject: Re: Merging Shale into MyFaces > > > > > Matthias, > > I made this same request, in addition to moving parts or all of Shale > > into MyFaces, to Wendy Smoak at ApacheCon in Atlanta. She said that > > she > > would look into it. > > > > Paul Spencer > > > > Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > >>> It was discussed, that Shale should have a final release; > > >>> I am +1 on that. > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> What do you have in mind, other than cutting the release? I may be > > >> able to help with the release (depends when etc.). v1.0.5 or v1.1.0 > > or > > >> both? > > > > > > it was now a while, since the last release; and a release > > > (1.0.5 and 1.1.0 IMO) is needed. > > > > > > What happens after such a release? > > > I don't know. Shale is quite now, besides > > > some committs, that you do :-) > > > > > >> > > >>> I am not sure, if all modules should really make it into MyFaces. > > >>> I can see interest in these Shale-modules: > > >>> -Dialog > > >>> -Remoting > > >>> -Test > > >>> -Tiger > > >>> -ViewController > > >>> > > >>> What happens to the rest? > > >>> I don't know; > > >>> Will they be maintained ? > > >>> I don't know; > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> I intend to remain involved with the dialog modules, at the least. > > > > > > nice to hear. I have no problem with making the Shale committers > > MyFaces > > > committers. Some are already. > > > > > > -M > > > > > >> -Rahul > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org