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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:42:30 +0100
From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <matzew@apache.org>
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To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project
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True!

...and also the name "common" is very common... :-)
And therefore not reserved for Apache Commons ...


-M

On 10/31/07, Volker Weber <v.weber@inexso.de> wrote:
> It is  a apache commons like project, just not located in commons.apache.org.
> If it is named myfaces-jsf-commons it should clear enough this is a
> myfaces project.
>
> And imho it should contain tools, components, ... for jsf users like
> apache-commons-beanutils contains java-collection stuff for java
> users.
>
>
> Regards,
>     Volker
>
> 2007/10/30, Ron Smits <ron@ronsmits.org>:
> > Grins, I so do not want to start a 'poco sensitive' discussion. But I agree
> > with several other writers here, that commons sounds too much like the
> > apache commons project
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >  On 10/30/07, Manfred Geiler <manfred.geiler@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Oh no! Not that discussion again...  :-(
> > >
> > > Ron, you might not be aware of former discussions on this list - not
> > > your fault of course.
> > >
> > > Yes, there are many ASF projects which have names related to Native
> > > Americans, BUT there are also many people concerned that those names
> > > could be offensive to Native Americans.
> > >
> > > And MyFaces is - of course - not the only ASF project where such
> > > discussions took place: see [1] to get an idea about such discussions
> > > in the Geronimo community.
> > > BTW, did you know they once had "Tomahawk" in their list of suggest
> > > alternatives?  ;-)
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong, my personal opinion is
> > > +/-0 for names related to Native Americans
> > >
> > > Just wanted to sensitize.
> > >
> > > --Manfred
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSBOX/why-apache-geronimo.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/30/07, Ron Smits < ron@ronsmits.org> wrote:
> > > > How about Tsalagi? that is the name of the cherokee language
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/30/07, Mario Ivankovits <mario@ops.co.at> wrote:
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > How about a new "ASF style" name instead of basic, commons or
> > > > > > something else that could be more easily misconstrued?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Could you give an "ASF style" name for example?
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Mario
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > I reject your reality and substitute my own
> > > >    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> >    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
>


-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

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